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Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:57 am
by ncc1701e
Trying to calculate my oil upkeep, I don't understand the game rule. Looks like a Battle Grp is sometimes consuming 1 oil and sometimes consuming 2 oil on Japanese side.

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Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:58 am
by ncc1701e
But buying a new Battle Grp, the consumption will be always at 2 oil use. Same for the US side.

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Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:59 am
by ncc1701e
However, on the US side, all the Battle Grp are at 1 oil use not 2. Bug or intended??? If so, why?

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Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:38 am
by ncc1701e
Same for the two Battle Grp of the Royal Navy. 1 oil use instead of 2 when buying.

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Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:35 pm
by AlvaroSousa
BB groups that have "warship" tech use 1 less oil.
All WW1 BBs have "warship" tech.
All modern BBs for the era have "heavy warship" tech.
Page 64 under Oil Maintenance updated rulebook
Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:09 pm
by ncc1701e
OK but when this bonus is applied for "Warship" tech? I am asking because buying new BB with "Warship" tech indicates an oil consumption of 2.
So, new BB "Warship" will consume 2 oil or 1 oil? I am confused.

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Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:27 pm
by Remington700
Good catch. This may be a coding thing.
When building a battle group the cost is the same for Large Warships or Warships. As Al mentioned, the intent of having BBs with "Warships" is to reflect the older tech. If you are building a new BB then you want the new tech "Large Warship" choice. It would be easer to see if this was the only option available - Large using 2 OP. Just like with cruisers which only have one option - Warships with 1 oil point use. However it may not be possible to remove the obsolete option without affecting the "at start" setup.
Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:08 pm
by ncc1701e
Oh I see what you mean. New BB group can only be built with a Large Warships option.
If it does not break the existing initial setup, why not.
Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:22 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Coding. WP2 will be different.
Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:58 pm
by ncc1701e
AlvaroSousa wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:35 pm
BB groups that have "warship" tech use 1 less oil.
All WW1 BBs have "warship" tech.
All modern BBs for the era have "heavy warship" tech.
Is it a rule set in stone? I am asking because I am seeing few exceptions in UK and Japanese BB units.
The USA BB units are just fine.
Except one thing the
Massachusetts BB div is arriving
November 7, 1944 in the Pacific for the game whereas it was transferred and was operating near
Noumea already in
March 4, 1943 protecting South Pacific convoy lanes.
Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:10 pm
by ncc1701e
All right, based on this, here is some WW1 BB/BC to change for UK in the Deployment queue:
Queen Elizabeth BB Sqd must be changed from Large Warships 1942 to Warships 1942
Valiant BB Sqd must be changed from Large Warships 1942 to Warships 1942
Renown BC Sqd must be changed from Large Warships 1942 to Warships 1942
I am checking Japan BB now.
Re: Battle Grp oil use
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:25 pm
by ncc1701e
And, here is the list for Japan on map only:
Nagato BB Sqd must be changed from
Large Warships 1942 to
Warships 1942 (hex:
70, 76)
Mutsu BB Sqd must be changed from
Large Warships 1942 to
Warships 1942 (hex:
80, 78)
Great, this will save oil.
