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[1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:18 pm
by LarkitsLaxen
In my current MP-game my oil income disappeared. We are about 75 turns in and I don't know why it suddenly happened this turn. As you can see the tooltip states that oil was sent to SHQ, but there is nothing there.
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Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:10 am
by Don_Kiyote
Is it in storage at the zone your SHQ is, perhaps?

It may show up on the "Items' tab for the zone, both as a transfer "In" and under the "Stock" column.

The Zone storage and the SHQ stockpile are distinct pools, and the side panel shows your SHQ stockpile. At some point in the turn, items are transferred between the Zone your SHQ is in, and the actual SHQ stockpile.

Put another way, all that oil will probably be available for distribution next turn.

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:44 am
by Voker57
Stocks do not contain the oil, and if they did, SHQ hint would say "sent to zones". The numbers don't add up here.

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:55 am
by LarkitsLaxen
Screenshot from inventory in the zone where SHQ resides. Oil sent from other zones as well is gone. It couldn't be logistics either as oil doesn't require logistics.

As Voker said, the numbers just doesn't add up...

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:21 am
by Vic
Hi,

It looks one first glance like a glitch indeed.

Do you still have the autosave from the turn before? And is it repeatable? If it is please email it to me at vic@vrdesigns.net and I will take a look.

Best wishes,
Vic

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:43 am
by Soar_Slitherine
Noting just in case you happened to recruit a very fuel-hungry formation that turn - the fuel for newly created formations is taken from the SHQ stocks without being accounted for in the tooltip.

EDIT: The same applies to subunit replacements being sent to field units, even ones delivered automatically during the logistics phase, so having to replace lots of tanks could also be the culprit.

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:22 pm
by Voker57
Previous save from the same player:
laxtest.zip
(5.36 MiB) Downloaded 12 times
Previous player's save immediately before the turn:
prelax.zip
(5.14 MiB) Downloaded 12 times
Issue can be reproduced from second save only.

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 4:45 pm
by Voker57
Still no fix or explanation for that?

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 3:46 pm
by Vic
This one might have slipped under the radar. I have added it to my to-do list. Will check this out after 3rd of june (sadly for SE I am on a small family trip very soon)

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 3:47 pm
by Vic
One thing you should really check though is what the version numbers of the other PBEM players are. Mouse over the #Scenario Version in Dashboard Report. An older version here might be a culprit.

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:35 pm
by Vic
Hi,
Inspected savefile. Looks like your units are consuming a hell of a lot of fuel. Do check STATS > Logistical Statistics > Unit Fuel Supply for an overview.
best wishes,
Vic

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:10 am
by Voker57
Vic wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:35 pm Hi,
Inspected savefile. Looks like your units are consuming a hell of a lot of fuel. Do check STATS > Logistical Statistics > Unit Fuel Supply for an overview.
best wishes,
Vic
It still does not add up. About 13k were requested and 9k delivered to units, local production ate another ~2k, stores had 10.5k, and ~12k got produced. Where's the current turn's produced fuel? From zone items' log it was shipped to SHQ but apparently never received.

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:45 pm
by Vic
I am going to look at those saves again!

It seems like maybe the logs are wrong somehow. As for example your principal Zone logs 8000 oil production, but actual production (see asset tab) is like much much lower.

Might be related to PBEM game...

I'll look at it again for next patch

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:18 am
by Voker57
Vic wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:45 pm I am going to look at those saves again!

It seems like maybe the logs are wrong somehow. As for example your principal Zone logs 8000 oil production, but actual production (see asset tab) is like much much lower.

Might be related to PBEM game...

I'll look at it again for next patch
I think that's because Bio-Fuel VI just finished construction and you can't see its output. Perhaps it didn't really work on this turn either?

Re: [1.11b] Disappearing Oil sent to SHQ

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:27 am
by Vic
Resolved this hard to comprehend issue with oil seemingly disappearing from SHQ.

It was sent out with auto reinforcements (100s of tanks all needing fuel) to units.

I am now logging this kind of item transfers to be included in the SHQ item bar mouse-overs. For v1.11.04

Best wishes,
Vic