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Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:32 pm
by ncc1701e
All right, this is one is intriguing. Maybe I should post a bug report because I don't understand the root cause.

There are ghosts in the Pacific!!!! :o :?

In every PBEM game I am playing, I am seeing this. Normally, Japanese are starting with these units:
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Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:37 pm
by ncc1701e
But double checking my current PBEM with Lascar, I have:
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Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:44 pm
by ncc1701e
Do you see the problem? Japanese are starting the game with 200 MM.

Right now, in my game with Lascar, he has 193 MM left in the Forces tab but 0 MM destroyed in the Casualties tab.

Where are the 7 MM missing??? Is there a Bermuda Triangle in the Pacific?


What I like to do is Port Supply Interdiction with my subs. Does it have an impact on MM fleet?

If so, why the destroyed MM are not listed in the Casualties tab?
And, if so, why the destroyed MM are not written in the below report for Supply Interdiction combat log?
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Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:34 pm
by ncc1701e
Just uploading my current game with Yuejin, the numbers are not correct as well.

He has 177 MM in the Forces tab and he has 11 MM destroyed in the Casualties tab.

But 177 + 11 = 188. So, there are 12 MM missing in this game.

I bet for Port Supply Interdiction. If it could just be logged if this is true.
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Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:33 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Might be a specific action not recording it. When do you think these are happening? Supply?

Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:09 pm
by ncc1701e
AlvaroSousa wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:33 pm Might be a specific action not recording it. When do you think these are happening? Supply?
I think this is when I am doing Supply Interdiction. I have found a hint in the manual page 61:
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The combat log of Supply Interdiction should mention how much MM were lost if any.
And, the MM lost should be listed in the Casualties tab.

Thanks

Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:58 pm
by ncc1701e
Solved with 1.00.081 patch. Thanks.

FIXED Recording MM lost on supply interdiction

Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:57 pm
by ncc1701e
Well, looks like I was too quick. Playing with 1.00.09, the losses are always 0 in the reports whereas in the Casualties they are listed.

Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:50 pm
by AlvaroSousa
So when is it being sunk? supply attacks or convoy attacks not recorded?

Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:14 pm
by ncc1701e
I am just doing Supply Interdiction around one hex islands.

Re: Ghosts in the Pacific

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:24 pm
by stjeand
Yes...not overly a fan of this...

I guess I am okay with a possible MM being sunk but there should be a chance a sub is damaged or even sunk also.

Most MM fleets had armed merchants...not that they were great but better than a sub on the surface a lot of times.