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36% diplo hit on Kentucky?!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:54 pm
by Duedman
I'm dipping my toes into the singleplayer to get at least some info on the events and spawns b4 MP.
While playing as the Union, very early on the South got a diplo success of 36% on Kentucky (see the attached screenshot on 1861-06-17)

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I had not attacked Missouri but that still got Kentucky right into the war.
The manual says:
"Every diplomacy chit invested has a 3% chance of moving the target country towards your side by
7-10% if it is a Major power, with a 10% chance of that swing being 20-30% if the targeted country is a
Minor."
So how is a 36% hit even possible?
Re: 36% diplo hit on Kentucky?!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:31 pm
by Yogol
Kentucky goes a certain percentages to Union every turn, by default.
Maybe the percentage shown is the sum of the default move towards Union plus the 20-30% from your diplomatic success?
Re: 36% diplo hit on Kentucky?!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:42 pm
by devoncop
Yogol wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:31 pm
Kentucky goes a certain percentages to Union every turn, by default.
Maybe the percentage shown is the sum of the default move towards Union plus the 20-30% from your diplomatic success?
I think the table shows Kentucky going 36% to the Confederates.....not to the Union.
Re: 36% diplo hit on Kentucky?!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:24 pm
by Duedman
Yeah, I'm playing as the Union and the Confederates got the 36%
Re: 36% diplo hit on Kentucky?!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:04 pm
by Beriand
And did Kentucky immediately secede?
Re: 36% diplo hit on Kentucky?!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:57 am
by Duedman
yes. They jumped to 11% south leaning and joined at the end of my turn.
I was not remembering the strat guide clearly and even investet 200mpp on them in my turn

Re: 36% diplo hit on Kentucky?!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:42 pm
by BiteNibbleChomp
Looks like this might be an issue with the manual
The 10% chance of a 20-30% boost is
on top of the usual 7-10%, giving a total range of 27-40%. That being the case, 36% is a lucky but not impossible result.
Apologies for the confusion.
- BNC
Re: 36% diplo hit on Kentucky?!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:04 pm
by Duedman
oooooh! now that makes sense! so there is actually a real (still small) chance to flip them.
Because it has to be a one hit otherwise the union would invest against it
Thanks!
Re: 36% diplo hit on Kentucky?!
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:49 pm
by Bobo2025
Beriand wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:04 pm
And did Kentucky immediately secede?
I saw the same 36% shift happen and yes it looks like once Kentucky goes >=1% to the Rebels it secedes.