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A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:09 am
by Jellicoe
I have been playing this game for many years and still new things crop up

I have just lost two tankers to 'accident' in as many months. One off Cochin and one of Lahaina. Never had this happen before

Irritating to lose two perfectly good tankers in early 42. Cool to see the game ai doing its thing

Looking forward to the Patch!

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:00 pm
by Sardaukar
It can happen especially during repairs too. More about Catastrophic Events here:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 3&t=378232

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:33 pm
by btd64
The fact that it can happen at any time, without warning, makes this more than chrome but GOLD...
.GP

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:46 pm
by Xargun
About 10 turns ago I had a midget sub sitting in the coastal waters of Truk suddenly have battery explosion that crippled her and inflicted like 50 flt / sys damage. Luckily she was right outside port when it happened.


Xargun

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:29 am
by BBfanboy
Battery explosion in this game is a new one for me! Were they experimenting with Lithium Ion batteries? :P

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:51 pm
by RangerJoe
I wonder if anyone in the game has ever had a submarine sunk by an overflowing toilet?

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:54 pm
by Orm
RangerJoe wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:51 pm I wonder if anyone in the game has ever had a submarine sunk by an overflowing toilet?
Did any side in the Pacific have submarines where such incidents could happen? Or was that an exclusive issue with some German U-boats?

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:18 pm
by RangerJoe
Orm wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:54 pm
RangerJoe wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:51 pm I wonder if anyone in the game has ever had a submarine sunk by an overflowing toilet?
Did any side in the Pacific have submarines where such incidents could happen? Or was that an exclusive issue with some German U-boats?
I don't know of any.

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:15 am
by Orm
So that event should not be possible in this game then. :)

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:03 pm
by RangerJoe
Orm wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:15 am So that event should not be possible in this game then. :)
Who knows what was put into the code for accidents?

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:31 pm
by Orm
RangerJoe wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:03 pm
Orm wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:15 am So that event should not be possible in this game then. :)
Who knows what was put into the code for accidents?
Indeed.

My point is just that I am pretty sure that an incident that could not occur in the type of submarines that were operated in the Pacific, would not have been included into the game. I hold the people who made this excellent game to an extremely high standard. And so far they have surpassed that standard.

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:01 pm
by GrosserKreuzer
BBfanboy wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:29 am Battery explosion in this game is a new one for me! Were they experimenting with Lithium Ion batteries? :P
Batteries used at that time (lead-acid battery) are emitting Oxygen and Hydrogen in an explosive mixture (most propably know this reaction from school). Especially when charging the batteries or discharging at a high rate (e.g. at full/flank speed) large amounts can be produced and the air in the battery room needs to be ventilated. Since a submarine is a closed environment, a failure of such systems can lead to an expolsive gas inside the submarine which only needs a spark to blow up.

This describes the principle pretty good, but on a submairne it´s obviously a much larger scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%8 ... _explosion

Re: A careless cigarette costs lives

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:44 pm
by RangerJoe
GrosserKreuzer wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:01 pm
BBfanboy wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:29 am Battery explosion in this game is a new one for me! Were they experimenting with Lithium Ion batteries? :P
Batteries used at that time (lead-acid battery) are emitting Oxygen and Hydrogen in an explosive mixture (most propably know this reaction from school). Especially when charging the batteries or discharging at a high rate (e.g. at full/flank speed) large amounts can be produced and the air in the battery room needs to be ventilated. Since a submarine is a closed environment, a failure of such systems can lead to an expolsive gas inside the submarine which only needs a spark to blow up.

This describes the principle pretty good, but on a submairne it´s obviously a much larger scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%8 ... _explosion
Not so much the Oxygen but Chlorine gas if there was salt water getting into the batteries as well as the hydrogen gas. If the battery acid leaked, the hull could collapse when diving which did happen to an early USN submarine, the F4.

https://archive.navalsubleague.org/1989 ... ough-ww-ii

Here is the battery chemistry link:

https://gizmodo.com/the-terrifying-chem ... 1695244906