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NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:15 pm
by Andy Mac
Please post all changes/amends you want the team to review in this thread

Please Be clear on

Scenario Number, Beta Version Current Version is 1. I will keep a log of items raised either on the main Beta thread or in this one btw I am not saying all changes will be accepted but I will agree that we will review each one.

Also please raise any inconsistencies between scenarios

Andy

Beta 1 All Scens Ship #212 is Hatsushimo of Hatsuharu class - Spelling of name
Beta 1 Scenario 3, 4 Canada #1083 is missing the battle 8 factory
Beta 1 Scenario 1,2,3,4 Melbourne @942 has a factory of 5 for 50-gallon drop tank.
Beta 1 review impact of Eastern USA #615 is missing the off-map supply/fuel
Beta 1 All full map Scens DDs Pope and Pillsbury should they be with the Asiatic Fleet
Beta 1 All Scens Tomahawk v Warhawk naming convention
Beta 1 Scen 1 /2 Aligarh #825/ Ambala #827/Amritsar #828/ Bikaner #836 /Winton #963 VP Multipliers
Beta 1 Scen 2/3 Foochow ownership
Beta 1 Scen 1 Choybalsan (base id 1370) has duplicated LI (20 LI and 30 LI, totaling 50 LI on base screen) (scen001)
Beta 1 All Scens Port Swettenham and Bukit Besi (both in Malayas) have 600 Res Centers EACH
Beta 1 All Scens Tingchow Chin-hua Chian Chuching Supply Caps
Beta 1 All Scens Bremerton Seattle Base Force
Beta 1 Downfall Scens - Need to remove at start pools of P51H's and equip the fighter groups with P51D's
Beta 1 All Scens HMS Adeialde TF Name
Beta 1 All Scens Review Malayan Air Wing Unit
Beta 1 All Scens review and amend fort levels in Burma Bases
Beta 1 Fina a way to delete scen 8/9 from build without telling folks to delete everything in Scen folder before installing new patch
Beta 1 All Scens move invasion reinforcement Div to Portland
Beta 1 Scen 3 amend start date to 8th Dec (LCU's in correct place so its just a date issue)
Beta 1 All Scens Lusu HQ Prep Location

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:15 pm
by Andy Mac
Holding Post

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:15 pm
by Andy Mac
Holding Post

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:25 pm
by btd64
All scenarios. West coast supply issue. Main bases are capping around 200k.

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:26 pm
by Andy Mac
Sorry Dont understand ??

I get there is some issues with the new lower automatic supply and fuel generation off map and partial replacement by convoys - and we will review to ensure the mix is correct on that - but it won't be to the point that supplies are meaningless to the Allies in 42

But are you saying something else is going on as well ??

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:39 pm
by Yaab
Scen001, beta patch v1

TF432 is misspelled "HMAS Adeilade" instead of "HMAS Adelaide".

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Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:54 pm
by Yaab
Scen001, beta patch v1

Not a new thing per se, but I have always suspected that the Malayan Air Wing (unit id 6632) has its devices mixed up. Too many aviation support devices, too many support devices compared to the TOE. Support slots in wrong places. No matter what I do, this unit never undisables its devices before Singapore falls.

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Come to think of it, this bloated unit represents free VPs for the Japs. The unit has a total of 135 surplus, disabled Allied devices, which translates into a free 45 VPs for the Japs.

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:37 pm
by randy376
Howdy,
Scenario 3 (Dec 8th full version) - Running the current beta 11.27.2. -- The scenario appears to be the same as scenario 1 and starts on Dec. 7th.

I'm a total newbie here and to the game, and hope this post is relevant. Iv'e covered the manual and watched a ton of videos, and wanted to use Kull's spreadsheet to help the learning process. I can start the "Quiet China" version and all the units seem correct, but I kind of want to handle China also.

I love this forum and have found a ton of awnsers to probably stupid questions. Anyway, disregard the post if it's not useful.

Thx mucho
Randy

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:39 pm
by Andy Mac
There is no Quiet China scenario option on the new scenarios - are you sure you installed onto a clean copy of the game ??

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:56 pm
by randy376
Thx for the quick response.

When I purchased the game, I did the intial install and then (from the Matrix page) installed the 1127 beta (supposed to be inclusive). Currently running version 1.8.11.27.2

Randy

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:03 pm
by Nomad
Andy Mac wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:39 pm There is no Quiet China scenario option on the new scenarios - are you sure you installed onto a clean copy of the game ??
Scenarios 8 and 9 are listed as Quiet China scenarios

And scenario 3 does start at December 7, 1941, not the expected December 8, 1941

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:07 pm
by Yaab
Scen001, beta patch v1

Recurring theme in Burma. Bases Tenchung (base id 1642, S of Myitkina) and Fort Herz (base id 1643,E of Ledo) both have forts level 6.

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:48 pm
by RangerJoe
Something that I saw although I did not take a picture of it. The Buffalo I has two centerline 50 caliber machine guns with an accuracy of 29, on all other aircraft that I checked the centerline accuracy is 58 or double what is showing for the Buffalo I. This would improve the Buffalo Is combat capability if the centerline gun had an accuracy of 58.

One thing about the big supply dumps for the Allies later in the game, it may help prevent an early Allied steamroller all over the map. Since SEAC was the last place on the supply list, that makes sense.

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:56 pm
by GrosserKreuzer
randy376 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:56 pm Thx for the quick response.

When I purchased the game, I did the intial install and then (from the Matrix page) installed the 1127 beta (supposed to be inclusive). Currently running version 1.8.11.27.2

Randy
To be clear, fresh install means that you chose a new folder (like WITP:AE_beta), install the base game (v1.00.79 from September 2009) and then do the Update to v1127Beta without doing anything to the base game in between.

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:13 pm
by Andy Mac
Yaab wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:07 pm Scen001, beta patch v1

Recurring theme in Burma. Bases Tenchung (base id 1642, S of Myitkina) and Fort Herz (base id 1643,E of Ledo) both have forts level 6.
Weird I only did scen 1 - 7 and 10 - 22

I think 8 and 9 are legacy of the original build and simply werent over written

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:15 pm
by Andy Mac
RangerJoe wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:48 pm Something that I saw although I did not take a picture of it. The Buffalo I has two centerline 50 caliber machine guns with an accuracy of 29, on all other aircraft that I checked the centerline accuracy is 58 or double what is showing for the Buffalo I. This would improve the Buffalo Is combat capability if the centerline gun had an accuracy of 58.

One thing about the big supply dumps for the Allies later in the game, it may help prevent an early Allied steamroller all over the map. Since SEAC was the last place on the supply list, that makes sense.
Not saying we are going to change it but we will keep an eye on it

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:15 pm
by Andy Mac
Yaab wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:07 pm Scen001, beta patch v1

Recurring theme in Burma. Bases Tenchung (base id 1642, S of Myitkina) and Fort Herz (base id 1643,E of Ledo) both have forts level 6.
Bugger I thought I fixed all of those

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:23 pm
by Andy Mac
Nomad wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:03 pm
Andy Mac wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:39 pm There is no Quiet China scenario option on the new scenarios - are you sure you installed onto a clean copy of the game ??
Scenarios 8 and 9 are listed as Quiet China scenarios

And scenario 3 does start at December 7, 1941, not the expected December 8, 1941
Agree re Scen 3 added to list above

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:31 pm
by randy376
Thanks Andy and Nomad... I thought it might have been Pilot Error.

Re: NEW SCENS FEEDBACK

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:33 pm
by Nomad
Andy Mac wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:13 pm
Yaab wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:07 pm Scen001, beta patch v1

Recurring theme in Burma. Bases Tenchung (base id 1642, S of Myitkina) and Fort Herz (base id 1643,E of Ledo) both have forts level 6.
Weird I only did scen 1 - 7 and 10 - 22

I think 8 and 9 are legacy of the original build and simply werent over written
It seems you are correct, I did not open the scenarios before, but I did now and neither are setup to use the new map. I would guess they need to be eliminated from the next build