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I have found lots of great scenario on the European theater for WW2, but they are all just too big for me to play atm. I'm looking for something that is more corps/armies and maybe 25/32km per hex?

I would like to be able to play and finish it in a few months or less.

thanks!

IMHO an absolute winner of bringing the game's tools together at that scale for WWII; Eastern Front 1941-1945 https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 6#p4747786

You'll thank Governato when you're done. It really harnesses the possibilities of what the game engine can do to simulate a long-term campaign.

Cpl GAC wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:56 pm IMHO an absolute winner of bringing the game's tools together at that scale for WWII; Eastern Front 1941-1945 https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 6#p4747786

You'll thank Governato when you're done. It really harnesses the possibilities of what the game engine can do to simulate a long-term campaign.

Thanks, I did find this one for the east front and love it. I was wondering if there was something similar to this for the west front WW2?

Maybe Europe44? Same general design style, shorter than EF but with a bit more units. It's hard to do the West front at just Corps level so this has a mix of unit sizes.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... #p4833535

Actually...Bob Cross (one of my favorite scenario designers and TOAW developer) gave it a try. It's a fun scenario that starts with the Bulge offensive...It's the 'Misc' section of TOAW4.


https://crossrl1.wixsite.com/my-toaw-site/germany-1945

abulbulian wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:43 pm

Cpl GAC wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:56 pm IMHO an absolute winner of bringing the game's tools together at that scale for WWII; Eastern Front 1941-1945 https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 6#p4747786

You'll thank Governato when you're done. It really harnesses the possibilities of what the game engine can do to simulate a long-term campaign.

Thanks, I did find this one for the east front and love it. I was wondering if there was something similar to this for the west front WW2?

abulbulian wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:39 am I have found lots of great scenario on the European theater for WW2, but they are all just too big for me to play atm. I'm looking for something that is more corps/armies and maybe 25/32km per hex?
I would like to be able to play and finish it in a few months or less.

You might want to give Third Reich a look. The scenario is based on Avalon Hill’s board game; some of the original developers are still active on this forum. It fits your criteria for scale & length, and mine for beer & pretzels. You can download it from Larry’s Recent Scenario Submissions, listed under the name 3R. Even though it’s designed for solo play it should be adaptable for PBM. Some of the particulars:

Designed for an Axis player against an Allied PO.
Fight WW II in only 25 turns.
Map approximately 68 x 53
Full Week turns, 50km/hex scale map
Axis army: 162 Formations, 381 Units
Allied army: 219 Formations, 301 Units
Axis has a boat load of Theater Options

Note, the scenario was originally developed as a TOAW III scenario and subsequently converted to TOAW IV. Suggest checking the TOAW settings before play.

Regards, RhinoBones

I'm looking for something that is more corps/armies and maybe 25/32km per hex?

I hear you on that, the theater level scenarios with divisions are tiring because there are too many units.

From the TOAW design perspective, it is a challenge to develop such a scenario.

Consider, for a moment, the notion of corps-level units. An accurate simulation would allow the USA one armored corps and that for a few months only. Otherwise, USA and UK corps had armored divisions as their components (and their equipment could be shown in the corps), but it might "look" odd to some players that the Germans and Soviets get units with armored icons but no one else does.

Some fudging would have to take place within units as only 24 items of equipment may be held in each unit. Doesn't allow for much equipment progression throughout the war.

Amphibious and airborne ops would be very rare at corps scale.

RB mentioned the 3R scenario above. It is a great scenario; a 25-30km hex version of that could be pretty cool.

Cheers

rhinobones wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:00 pm

abulbulian wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:39 am I have found lots of great scenario on the European theater for WW2, but they are all just too big for me to play atm. I'm looking for something that is more corps/armies and maybe 25/32km per hex?
I would like to be able to play and finish it in a few months or less.

You might want to give Third Reich a look. The scenario is based on Avalon Hill’s board game; some of the original developers are still active on this forum. It fits your criteria for scale & length, and mine for beer & pretzels. You can download it from Larry’s Recent Scenario Submissions, listed under the name 3R. Even though it’s designed for solo play it should be adaptable for PBM. Some of the particulars:

Designed for an Axis player against an Allied PO.
Fight WW II in only 25 turns.
Map approximately 68 x 53
Full Week turns, 50km/hex scale map
Axis army: 162 Formations, 381 Units
Allied army: 219 Formations, 301 Units
Axis has a boat load of Theater Options

Note, the scenario was originally developed as a TOAW III scenario and subsequently converted to TOAW IV. Suggest checking the TOAW settings before play.

Regards, RhinoBones

I tried this game but has some issues playing against AI. stacking and naval units can bombard any unit off the map

some issues playing against AI. stacking and naval units can bombard any unit off the map

As stated in the Briefing:
(The PO will cheat and ignore stacking limits).

Can you provide which naval units can bombard which units off map?

a 25-30km hex version of that could be pretty cool.

I'm pretty sure there is a map that scale floating around somewhere. I've one scenario that is 20 km's but division scale, and also have been working on a 50km corps scenario similar to Russian Campaign but for all of Europe, the European Campaign:

Ok I found it, on an old thumb drive. If I recall correctly, someone posted this years ago along with some others for free use. It's not a scenario, it's a map only.

It's quite huge, but with corps sized units maybe it would be fun?