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Are there any plans for game to have an atmosphere class?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:59 pm
by arvcran2
The industry building that has an atmosphere refiner will have an affect on the atmosphere, as does the combustion engine.
What about wind, and water pollutants from war events, and possibly non empires related caused events?
Re: Are there any plans for game to have an atmosphere class?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:49 pm
by zgrssd
Earth has a population of billions and it takes us decades to change the climate.
Populations in SE are a few orders of magnitude to small to do anything within game time.
A one time injection from a nuclear war or volcano would only have effect for like 1 decade. Then the particulate has settled and will at best become a entry in the geological record.
Re: Are there any plans for game to have an atmosphere class?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:51 pm
by zgrssd
Also a small reminder about scale:
Each Hex is 200km short diagonal.
Each turn is 2 earth months.
Earth is 70% water.
So something that is a major event on earth, is barely a blip on the map in SE.
Re: Are there any plans for game to have an atmosphere class?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:50 pm
by arvcran2
zgrssd wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:49 pm
A one time injection from a nuclear war or volcano would only have effect for like 1 decade.
Curiously, would you be willing to bet your life on that claim? It would depend on the severity of either of those two disasters, no? Also folks such as 'experts' in the field claimed that we did not affect the climate.
I understand the replies however, in terms of the scope of the scenarios we get.
Re: Are there any plans for game to have an atmosphere class?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:27 pm
by zgrssd
arvcran2 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:50 pm
zgrssd wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:49 pm
A one time injection from a nuclear war or volcano would only have effect for like 1 decade.
Curiously, would you be willing to bet your life on that claim? It would depend on the severity of either of those two disasters, no? Also folks such as 'experts' in the field claimed that we did not affect the climate.
I understand the replies however, in terms of the scope of the scenarios we get.
Ash and soot is not infinitely airborne. When it drops, there goes the climate impact of a volcano or nuclear war.
And if you are trying to pull a bad faith argument like "climate change isn't real", you are not exactly getting anyone taking any of your posts seriously.
Re: Are there any plans for game to have an atmosphere class?
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:13 am
by Xxzard
Terraforming would be neat, but probably not within the scope of this game.