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5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration NOT Bug
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:46 am
by rkr1958
1. MWIF 5.0.0.10 (Debug), but I encountered this same bug in my last game with this same version and all lower versions down to 3.2.0.
2. Germany declares/installs Vichy.
3. Free/Vichy French Control: (a) Morocco, Algeria & Tunisia=10, (b) West Africa=2, (c) Syria=5, (d) FIC=2, (e) Madagascar=7, (f) Asian Minors=9, (g) French Equatorial Africa=4, (h) Pacific minor=8, (i) Other=1.
4. USE(1.8)=10 -> 1 chit added -> range=89 -> value=1.
5. Select Morocco as France's new home country.
6. MWIF now takes you through displacing all Germany & Italian units in Vichy.
7. Once you move them all, MWIF hangs and you cannot advance to the next phase.
8. This is a FATAL, game stopping bug and I hope it gets addressed.
9. FYI. Because of my game editing skills I'm able to get workaround the bug by "manually" displacing all German and Italian units before Vichy is declared, thus skipping this phase and being able to continue.
10. I've included both files.
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 5:43 am
by Orm
I loaded, and tested this, and it worked fine for me.
I recall that I had a similar situation in a recent game in version 4.2.2 with Morocco as the new home country and it worked fine, so I decided to test your save with the latest version, and I had no issue with it.
Therefore, I wonder if there is something we do differently as we get different outcomes. Any idea on what that might be?
Edit: For clarification, I advanced the save through to factory destruction step.
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 9:51 am
by Joseignacio
A side question: I forgot which country became the new Free France Home Country. Is it listed anywhere in the game so I can know?
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 11:34 am
by Centuur
Same here. No problems at all...
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:26 pm
by rkr1958
Joseignacio wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 9:51 am
A side question: I forgot which country became the new Free France Home Country. Is it listed anywhere in the game so I can know?
5. Select Morocco as France's new home country.
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:28 pm
by rkr1958
Orm wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 5:43 am
I loaded, and tested this, and it worked fine for me.
I recall that I had a similar situation in a recent game in version 4.2.2 with Morocco as the new home country and it worked fine, so I decided to test your save with the latest version, and I had no issue with it.
Therefore, I wonder if there is something we do differently as we get different outcomes. Any idea on what that might be?
Edit: For clarification, I advanced the save through to factory destruction step.
Centuur wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:34 am
Same here. No problems at all...
Thanks. I'll try it again and see what happens.
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 2:39 pm
by Joseignacio
rkr1958 wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 12:26 pm
Joseignacio wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 9:51 am
A side question: I forgot which country became the new Free France Home Country. Is it listed anywhere in the game so I can know?
5. Select Morocco as France's new home country.
Sorry, I meant I forgot it in my own game and now I dont know how to find it...

Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 2:43 pm
by Joseignacio
One year ago, in our Vichy phase, I had big problems as well. I remeber we tried up and down with versions and cant remember if we (mostly) "solved it" with these changes or maybe with a resource that has given us better results lately: changing to solitaire or hotseat, letting the phase run past that, and then use it again as a Netplay.
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 4:09 pm
by rkr1958
rkr1958 wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 12:28 pm
Orm wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 5:43 am
I loaded, and tested this, and it worked fine for me.
I recall that I had a similar situation in a recent game in version 4.2.2 with Morocco as the new home country and it worked fine, so I decided to test your save with the latest version, and I had no issue with it.
Therefore, I wonder if there is something we do differently as we get different outcomes. Any idea on what that might be?
Edit: For clarification, I advanced the save through to factory destruction step.
Centuur wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:34 am
Same here. No problems at all...
Thanks. I'll try it again and see what happens.
I got it to work this time. I think I know what may have happened. During the German/Italy relocation of units out of Vichy I toggled between the countries by clicking on their flags. That is, a moved a couple of German units, then switched to Italy and moved a couple of their units and back, etc. I'll give this a try later and see if that was indeed the cause.
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 4:31 pm
by rkr1958
Joseignacio wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 2:39 pm
rkr1958 wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 12:26 pm
Joseignacio wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 9:51 am
A side question: I forgot which country became the new Free France Home Country. Is it listed anywhere in the game so I can know?
5. Select Morocco as France's new home country.
Sorry, I meant I forgot it in my own game and now I dont know how to find it...
I'm not sure either. I looked in "Relations" but it wasn't defined in that form. I'll keep looking.
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 12:25 pm
by BrianJH
rkr1958 wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 4:31 pm
Joseignacio wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 2:39 pm
rkr1958 wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 12:26 pm
5. Select Morocco as France's new home country.
Sorry, I meant I forgot it in my own game and now I dont know how to find it...
I'm not sure either. I looked in "Relations" but it wasn't defined in that form. I'll keep looking.
It is in the relations form. The trick is, you have to select the cell that intersects both Free France in the row and column. It then displays at the bottom of the form.
Brian.

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Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration Bug - FATAL.
Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 6:19 pm
by rkr1958
BrianJH wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:25 pm
rkr1958 wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 4:31 pm
Joseignacio wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 2:39 pm
Sorry, I meant I forgot it in my own game and now I dont know how to find it...
I'm not sure either. I looked in "Relations" but it wasn't defined in that form. I'll keep looking.
It is in the relations form. The trick is, you have to select the cell that intersects both Free France in the row and column. It then displays at the bottom of the form.
Brian.
relations.jpg
Thanks! Tricky.
Re: 5.0.0.10 (Debug). Vichy Declaration NOT Bug
Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 10:21 am
by Joseignacio
Ditto!
Thanks and tricky, lol