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OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 8:18 pm
by FifthDomain
Good Evening,

Build: Steam Beta 1328.2

Currently the highest detail level will not display for the OpenTopoMap layer and Stamen Terrain, works fine in Base Steam Version 1307.14.

OpenTopoMap Base
OpenTopoMap - S 1307.14.png
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OpenTopoMap Beta
OpenTopoMap - SB 1328.2.png
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Stamen Terrain Base
Stamen Terrain - S 1307.14.png
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Stamen Terrain Beta
Stamen Terrain - SB 1328.2.png
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Thanks for your time

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 2:00 pm
by oran42
FifthDomain wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:18 pm Currently the highest detail level will not display for the OpenTopoMap layer and Stamen Terrain, works fine in Base Steam Version 1307.14.
FifthDomain, thank you for your report and the comparison screenshots. When you said that road names were not showing in this post, did you mean road names like "Drump Road" in your third screenshot in this thread above?

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 9:55 pm
by FifthDomain
More the smaller streets shown such as Claremont Mews to the left of Drump Road in the third Image.

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:24 pm
by FifthDomain
Good Evening

This is still an issue in Steam Beta 1328.5.

Stamen Terrain 1307.18
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Stamen Terrain 1328.5 Beta
1328.5 Beta Stamen Terrain.png
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OpenTopoMap 1307.18
1307.18 OpenTopoMap.png
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OpenTopoMap 1328.5 Beta
1328.5 Beta OpenTopoMap.png
1328.5 Beta OpenTopoMap.png (3.94 MiB) Viewed 2485 times
Thanks for your time

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 5:46 pm
by FifthDomain
Still the same in 1328.6

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:11 pm
by oran42
FifthDomain wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 5:46 pm Still the same in 1328.6
FifthDomain, thank you for your follow-up on this. A fix is the pipeline that should add some further zoom level to Stamen Terrain and OpenTopo.

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:43 pm
by FifthDomain
oran42 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:11 pm
FifthDomain wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 5:46 pm Still the same in 1328.6
FifthDomain, thank you for your follow-up on this. A fix is the pipeline that should add some further zoom level to Stamen Terrain and OpenTopo.
Excellent, Thanks for your time.

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:47 pm
by FifthDomain
Good Evening

Just tested this out it will zoom in further but the image detail/quality is still not as good as the non beta version. Some of detail is still missing and it looks blurry zoomed in. Have also just checked Sentinel-2 and that has the original zoom problem too. I think it's also affecting unit placement as the map moves thing placed on it will change position, i will make a new post for that with images.

OpenTopo Map Beta 1328.7
Bete 1328.7 Zoom Test.png
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Stamen Terrain Beta 1328.7
Bete 1328.7 Zoom Test Stamen.png
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Sentinel-2 Beta 1328.7
Bete 1328.7 Zoom Test Sentinel.png
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Any further info required just ask.

Thanks for your time.

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:26 pm
by FifthDomain
Still exists in 1328.8

Currently the maps in the 32bit version much more clear at high zoom levels, if you view this on a big screen its quite blurry and dotty, i,m currently viewing on 32" monitor. In the 32bit version you can see street names, house numbers and no blurring. The tiles do load faster though in the 64bit version.

Thanks for your time.

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:19 am
by laro
Confirming the issue, in my case blurriness or edges are visible when map renders (depending on zoom level), though it renders quicker than in previous prod version.
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Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:55 pm
by FifthDomain
Still an issue in 1328.9

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:20 am
by Dimitris
Testing now for the upcoming update:

Image

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:14 pm
by FifthDomain
Dimitris wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:20 am Testing now for the upcoming update:
Excellent looking forward to it, are there any Betas open for testing at the minute other than desert falcon.

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:13 pm
by FifthDomain
Still the same in 1328.10

I just had a look at opentopo maps to see if they had lost their detail, basically it just not fetching the highest zoom map tiles, there is another stage after what's currently been shown in game. That final level is the most detailed one with house numbers etc shown. Example below. This was available in the 32bit but lost with the 64bit, IMO probably needed more now that Stamen has gone.

OpenTopo from Web.png
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As always thanks for your time.

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:35 pm
by FifthDomain
Good evening is this still been looked at, thank you.

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:57 am
by Dimitris
Hi, indeed it is being actively tweaked, here is a screenshot from the current dev build:

Image

This will hopefully be included on the next update release, coming soon.

Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:07 pm
by FifthDomain
Excellent, thank you for the reply.

I don't know if this will help but Opentopo has 9 levels of zoom the one you show there is level 2, but there is another layer after that, it is more detailed and will probably be far more crisp when zoomed in as shown in my picture in the post above, it was in 32bit but lost in the transition to 64bit. I dont think its anything other that the level 2 zoom level showing as level 1. I have included Screenshots below with each zoom level direct from OpenTopo website (https://opentopomap.org/) this should show what i'm talking about better. It will show the difference between zoom levels 1 and 2. It's just not fetching zoom level 1 for below 500m from OpenTopo so when you zoom in close its on level 2 so it gets distorted.

EDIT: OpenTopo level 1 (currently missing ingame) should be what you see in game below camera height 1000m and level 2 (currently level 1 [max zoom in] ingame) from 1000m to 4000m approximately. This should resolve the distortion seen at max zoom in.
OpenTopo Zoom 9 (Max Out).png
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OpenTopo Zoom Level 8.png
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OpenTopo Zoom Level 7.png
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OpenTopo Zoom Level 6.png
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Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:12 pm
by FifthDomain
OpenTopo Zoom Level 5.png
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OpenTopo Zoom Level 4.png
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OpenTopo Zoom Level 3.png
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Re: OpenTopoMap, Zoom Detail Level

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:13 pm
by FifthDomain
OpenTopo Zoom Level 2.png
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OpenTopo Zoom Level 1.png
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