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I have multi-role units (mostly Naval Infantry Brigades and Infantry Brigades) I've been converting to support units to help strengthen my armies. I'm letting the AI move my support units around.

I can convert them from an on-map unit to a support unit, but I don't seem to be able to convert them back from a support unit to an on-map unit. There's no problem with stacking limits because the HQs they are in are the only unit in the hex.

Can someone possibly explain what I might be doing wrong? I had wanted them to be able to be used as support units by the HQ and, if needed, convert to map units if I needed to fill a line.

Thanks

Reading the manual and living manual I noticed it said that "if the multi-role unit does not meet the requirements to convert, it will be designated with the plain white text Multi-Role".

I do NOT see that in any of my Multi-Role units that I have as support units.

PLEASE someone help.

You cannot make a multi-role unit go from support to on-map if it has just been moved to this HQ. This is marked by an asterisk before the brigade's name in the HQ's unit list. A unit is considered being moved to the HQ if a) it was transferred from one HQ to another this turn OR b) it has been transferred from a unit to the HQ this turn OR c) it has been converted from on-map to support this turn

FortTell wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:15 pm You cannot make a multi-role unit go from support to on-map if it has just been moved to this HQ. This is marked by an asterisk before the brigade's name in the HQ's unit list. A unit is considered being moved to the HQ if a) it was transferred from one HQ to another this turn OR b) it has been transferred from a unit to the HQ this turn OR c) it has been converted from on-map to support this turn

There's no asterisks in front of the units. I'm allowing the AI to allocate my support units but it sounds like if any were moved to the HQ or between HQs there would still be an asterisk noting it was moved. There are none.

I've been away a few years (work and illness) so I don't know this and couldn't find out in forum searches, but was there ever a Multi-Role bug like this in any version?

It's working fine for me. Do you want to share a save or screenshots?

K62 wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:19 pm It's working fine for me. Do you want to share a save or screenshots?

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Here is one example:

K62 wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:19 pm It's working fine for me. Do you want to share a save or screenshots?

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Here is another:

Anybody have ANY ideas what might be going on?

Go to your 33rd and 16th army and show that screen. Did you change their HQ this turn or a previous one? If you changed it this turn, you need to wait until next turn to move them out of the HQ onto the map.

I would also try opening the Stalingrad to Berlin campaign as Soviet and locating the 1st Rifle Brigade (it's attached to 8th Army in the Leningrad area). Does it have the "convert unit" button?

K62 wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:14 am I would also try opening the Stalingrad to Berlin campaign as Soviet and locating the 1st Rifle Brigade (it's attached to 8th Army in the Leningrad area). Does it have the "convert unit" button?

Dumb question, but what game version do you happen to be on?

dereck wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:04 pm

K62 wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:14 am I would also try opening the Stalingrad to Berlin campaign as Soviet and locating the 1st Rifle Brigade (it's attached to 8th Army in the Leningrad area). Does it have the "convert unit" button?

Dumb question, but what game version do you happen to be on?

1.02.52

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I'm trying to confirm it in the Tech Support but being away since October 2021I'm beginning to think I'm on an older version and it might have been a bug that was fixed along the way.

K62 wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:25 pm

dereck wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:04 pm

K62 wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:14 am I would also try opening the Stalingrad to Berlin campaign as Soviet and locating the 1st Rifle Brigade (it's attached to 8th Army in the Leningrad area). Does it have the "convert unit" button?

Dumb question, but what game version do you happen to be on?

1.02.52

Another question: Are you playing with HQ Support Locked or Unlocked? I looked at some HQs and I couldn't do anything with ANY support units with this campaign yet the campaign I had going that I stopped in October 2021 had HQ Support Locked and it looks like I can.

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If you are going to convert the unit the unit has to be in the hex with a HQ


Try that and let me know. Thank you much!

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AND then only if the unit is capable of being converted. (meaning it is a multi-role unit)

HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:57 pm .


If you are going to convert the unit the unit has to be in the hex with a HQ


Try that and let me know. Thank you much!

I know how Multi-Role units work. Use them a lot in WITW. I can convert them into a support unit but not back to the map. According to someone in the Tech forum it is a bug in the old version I'm using but the next patch (which I have) fixed it so I'm going to patch to that and hopefully all will work okay and I can keep my campaign going.

dereck wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:05 pm

HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:57 pm .


If you are going to convert the unit the unit has to be in the hex with a HQ


Try that and let me know. Thank you much!

I know how Multi-Role units work. Use them a lot in WITW. I can convert them into a support unit but not back to the map. According to someone in the Tech forum it is a bug in the old version I'm using but the next patch (which I have) fixed it so I'm going to patch to that and hopefully all will work okay and I can keep my campaign going.

Sounds good . Was not questioning intelligence only going through the motions of trying to help. glad you found an answer.

HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:09 pm

dereck wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:05 pm

HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:57 pm .


If you are going to convert the unit the unit has to be in the hex with a HQ


Try that and let me know. Thank you much!

I know how Multi-Role units work. Use them a lot in WITW. I can convert them into a support unit but not back to the map. According to someone in the Tech forum it is a bug in the old version I'm using but the next patch (which I have) fixed it so I'm going to patch to that and hopefully all will work okay and I can keep my campaign going.

Sounds good . Was not questioning intelligence only going through the motions of trying to help. glad you found an answer.

Oh question my intelligence. Here I am playing a game that is currently making it so I need to put a cushion on my chair so I can sit comfortably. Think I might been out taking photos in the hot sun too long

dereck wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:17 pm

HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:09 pm

dereck wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:05 pm

I know how Multi-Role units work. Use them a lot in WITW. I can convert them into a support unit but not back to the map. According to someone in the Tech forum it is a bug in the old version I'm using but the next patch (which I have) fixed it so I'm going to patch to that and hopefully all will work okay and I can keep my campaign going.

Sounds good . Was not questioning intelligence only going through the motions of trying to help. glad you found an answer.

Oh question my intelligence. Here I am playing a game that is currently making it so I need to put a cushion on my chair so I can sit comfortably. Think I might been out taking photos in the hot sun too long

. I see we were in the Navy at the exact same time. Only difference was I was in the Marines and only made it on an LHA . Years go by too darn fast