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I have only found a general description of the differences. Is there a more specific one? I ask because I found a CA that didnt get produced and the first ship of the class didnt come until 1942, have also found some DD

Just in logistics, you get larger stockpiles of fuel and supplies at the beginning of the scenario, particularly at Truk, Kwajalein, Saigon, Takao, and other key locations. In terms of sea-power, you get more destroyers early (4 more at-start), plus more in the queue. About 6-8 extra in 1942, and a whole Shimakaze-class later in 1943/44. You also get 3 extra Agano light cruisers in the build queue. You do have to pay for all this luxury of course, with Heavy Industry points. You don't get any extra carriers. However, the Shinano now arrives in late 1944 as a Taiho-class carrier instead of a modified Yamato, and the escort carriers come in with organic air groups attached. You also get more oil tankers in the build queue.

In the air, you get some extra squadrons stocked with Zeros and Bettys. Bangkok in particular, is well staffed with additional air groups at start. The scenario also grants more additional pilots to the pool every month; this is actually a bit of a problem though, as you get more than you really need, and it burns up a lot of of HI.

There are a lot of additional ground units; primarily, 4 extra divisions in 1942 (4th,5th,and 6th Guards, plus 1st Gds Tank), plus extra paratroopers.

So, you don't receive oodles of new eye-catching capital ships (unlike, say, Ironman), but you get more 2nd-tier stuff across the board which sure helps in logistics and staying power. It's Japan buffed up as opposed to bulked up as in Ironman.

Thanks, this is more detail than I had, FYI there is an Agano class on the board from the start, that was the reason why I asked in the first place

By the way, is there a middle ground scenario between 1 and 2. As in you start as 1, but if you do well the additional ships, LCU etc are in the queue to be built if you have the resources to do so?

Gratch1111 wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:27 pm By the way, is there a middle ground scenario between 1 and 2. As in you start as 1, but if you do well the additional ships, LCU etc are in the queue to be built if you have the resources to do so?

No. Unless you make it....GP

Platoonist wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:16 pm Just in logistics, you get larger stockpiles of fuel and supplies at the beginning of the scenario, particularly at Truk, Kwajalein, Saigon, Takao, and other key locations. In terms of sea-power, you get more destroyers early (4 more at-start), plus more in the queue. About 6-8 extra in 1942, and a whole Shimakaze-class later in 1943/44. You also get 3 extra Agano light cruisers in the build queue. You do have to pay for all this luxury of course, with Heavy Industry points. You don't get any extra carriers. However, the Shinano now arrives in late 1944 as a Taiho-class carrier instead of a modified Yamato, and the ....

On Holiday so no access to the game but there were also additional factories including R&D and HI,if I remember correctly.

tolsdorff wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:59 pm On Holiday so no access to the game but there were also additional factories including R&D and HI,if I remember correctly.

Yup. Comparing Tokyo industry numbers alone in both scenarios, that certainly does seem to be the case for items like oil, refining and shipyards.