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What is supposed to happen to Communist China units outside their territory when its surrenders?

The strategy guide isn't clear as it just states that 100% of their land/naval units will become free units. My expectation would be they would join China. But it appears they joined USSR even though they are standing in Chinese territory. To make it even more confusing, the free_unit.txt script seems to specify multiple possible owners but my understanding is the last entry will just overwrite the previous ones. So I think the intended behavior is for them to surrender to China but instead they surrender to USSR and have terrible supply in China.

Here are the relevant scripts:
{
#NAME= Free Communist Chinese Units (to China)
#POPUP=
#IMAGE=
#SOUND=
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 0
#AI= 0
#LEVEL= 0
#GV= 1[1,100]
#LINK= 0[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 25
#RECIPIENT_ID= 23
#TRIGGER= 100
#LAND_PERCENTAGE= 100
#NAVAL_PERCENTAGE= 100
}

{
#NAME= Free Communist Chinese Units (to India)
#POPUP=
#IMAGE=
#SOUND=
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 0
#AI= 0
#LEVEL= 0
#GV= 1[1,100]
#LINK= 0[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 25
#RECIPIENT_ID= 54
#TRIGGER= 100
#LAND_PERCENTAGE= 100
#NAVAL_PERCENTAGE= 100
}

{
#NAME= Free Communist Chinese Units (to the UK)
#POPUP=
#IMAGE=
#SOUND=
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 0
#AI= 0
#LEVEL= 0
#GV= 1[1,100]
#LINK= 0[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 25
#RECIPIENT_ID= 112
#TRIGGER= 100
#LAND_PERCENTAGE= 100
#NAVAL_PERCENTAGE= 100
}

{
#NAME= Free Communist Chinese Units (to the USA)
#POPUP=
#IMAGE=
#SOUND=
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 0
#AI= 0
#LEVEL= 0
#GV= 1[1,100]
#LINK= 0[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 25
#RECIPIENT_ID= 115
#TRIGGER= 100
#LAND_PERCENTAGE= 100
#NAVAL_PERCENTAGE= 100
}

{
#NAME= Free Communist Chinese Units (to the USSR)
#POPUP=
#IMAGE=
#SOUND=
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 0
#AI= 0
#LEVEL= 0
#GV= 1[1,100]
#LINK= 0[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 25
#RECIPIENT_ID= 116
#TRIGGER= 100
#LAND_PERCENTAGE= 100
#NAVAL_PERCENTAGE= 100
}

It is indeed a good question as to who the Communist Chinese should belong to, and there are multiple scripts there to account for varying situations.

Should (Nationalist) China be made the priority? I can see arguments for and against, but overall I feel that the USSR is a better fit.

BillRunacre wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:52 pm It is indeed a good question as to who the Communist Chinese should belong to, and there are multiple scripts there to account for varying situations.

Should (Nationalist) China be made the priority? I can see arguments for and against, but overall I feel that the USSR is a better fit.

I think historically you could make the argument the USSR is a better fit but gameplay wise it should definitely be China as otherwise you get the weird supply situation since USSR is non-cooperative. Essentially Communist Chinese units are fighting alongside China getting good supply and then all of a sudden they have virtually no supply which feels really awkward. Also if they are going to transfer to the USSR then it would make more sense for them to be a USSR minor not Chinese minor. Only other option I can think of is making it so China provides supply to USSR units.