Page 1 of 3
					
				Yamato Wreck Images
				Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:04 am
				by pry
				Came across this by accident. Several images of the Yamato wreck taken in 1999. I don't know if anyone is interested but these are the 1st images of the wreck I have ever seen.
http://www.warship.get.net.pl/Japonia/B ... ck_02.html 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:25 am
				by Snigbert
				Cool pictures, thanks.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:41 am
				by Ron Saueracker
				Saw them a while back.  Quite the devastation.  I'm still looking for an overall view or line drawing of the wreck of HMS Hood.
			 
			
					
				!!
				Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:11 am
				by mariovalleemtl
				Many thanks!
mv
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:46 am
				by jcjordan
				Cool, didn't know it had been found & mapped as I thought it sunk in real deep waters of the Pacific.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 4:57 am
				by pry
				Originally posted by Ron Saueracker 
Saw them a while back.  Quite the devastation.  I'm still looking for an overall view or line drawing of the wreck of HMS Hood. 
 
Speaking of total devestation... The Hood is in thousands of little chunks spread out over a large swath of the ocean floor I doubt creating a map or Diorama would be possible. There are some great pictures of the Hood wreck here
http://hmshood.com/hoodtoday/2001expedi ... index.html
at the bottom there are several links to the images.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:31 pm
				by Genda
				Thanks for the great posts!
			 
			
					
				!!!
				Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:57 pm
				by mariovalleemtl
				I would love to see the Shinano, the bigest CV of the war.
mario
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 5:33 am
				by Nikademus
				i want Mr Ballard to go back to Midway and make another attempt to find the rest of the carriers involved.   The images of Yorktown were stunning and the one photo of a piece of wreckage from the Kaga located at Combinedfleet.com are tantilizing.
It'd be very cool to see those other four carriers......and after that the wreck of the Mikuma.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 7:03 am
				by pry
				Originally posted by Nikademus 
i want Mr Ballard to go back to Midway and make another attempt to find the rest of the carriers involved.   The images of Yorktown were stunning and the one photo of a piece of wreckage from the Kaga located at Combinedfleet.com are tantilizing.
It'd be very cool to see those other four carriers......and after that the wreck of the Mikuma. 
 
Add Lexington, Indianapolis, Juneau, Musashi and Wahoo to my list for Dr. Ballard
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 9:58 am
				by madflava13
				I agree, but no one knows where the Wahoo is, and the Lady Lex is in really really deep water, so it's probably unlikely...
			 
			
					
				Re: Yamato Wreck Images
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 1:23 pm
				by Spearhead
				 
There was lately a topic in one magazine about Yamato and its destruction-in detail.Pretty cool story and pics and there was briefly mentioned other Japanese biggest battleships and that carrier too.As the story tells the Yamato took in several torpedoes from sub whose name i really cant recall and slowly sank till its main caliber ammo mostly blew up and then followed the secondary ammo for AA and smaller caliber guns and this teared Yamato apart and it went down fast and painfully with over 3000 men.This is as much as i remember from this topic,there may be some mistakes but in general it should be correct.
 
			 
			
					
				Sub???
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:48 pm
				by fcooke
				Yamato was sunk by CV based air attack, not a sub.  She was torpedoed earlier in the war by a US sub, but survived.
			 
			
					
				torpedos
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 5:56 pm
				by mogami
				Hi, Shinano was sank by a sub.  I can't recall if it was Yamato or Musashi that took 40 bomb hits and over a dozen torpedos before sinking.  (and they say the damage control parties were not that well trained. A USN crew might have kept the ship afloat even after all the damage)
			 
			
					
				Re: Sub???
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 6:22 pm
				by Spearhead
				Originally posted by fcooke 
Yamato was sunk by CV based air attack, not a sub.  She was torpedoed earlier in the war by a US sub, but survived. 
 
Very possible.Asi said i read the topic long time ago and couldnr remember all the stuff.There were some text about other big battleships too and maybe is changed the names accidentally.Besides,who knows all the weird japs names anyway 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:30 pm
				by mdiehl
				There was lately a topic in one magazine about Yamato and its destruction-in detail.Pretty cool story and pics and there was briefly mentioned other Japanese biggest battleships and that carrier too.As the story tells the Yamato took in several torpedoes from sub whose name i really cant recall and slowly sank till its main caliber ammo mostly blew up and then followed the secondary ammo for AA and smaller caliber guns and this teared Yamato apart and it went down fast and painfully with over 3000 men.This is as much as i remember from this topic,there may be some mistakes but in general it should be correct.
Yamato's demise is documented in detail viewable at 
www.combinedfleet.com. Click on the operational history for BBs and the Yamato.
Yamato's exact cause of death is unknown. She would not, however, have been savable even if a USN crew had been aboard. The second bomb to hit Yamato, a 1000 pounder, set a fire in her secondary magazine aft and destroyed the water mains in that and adjacent compartments. The 2ndary mag fire fire may eventually have detonated the main magazine, but the explosion may have been caused by some other source.
Yamato seems not to have been especially invulnerable to air or torpedo atttack. The account of her demise is similar to those of Bismarck and Prince of Wales. Lots or pummeling and eventual loss. In Yamato's case, the whole thing took about two hours.
1232: A lookout spots American planes 25 degrees to port, elevation 8, range 4,375 yards, moving to port. This is the first wave of 280 aircraft .....
1423: Sunk: The YAMATO's No. 1 magazine explodes and sends up a cloud of smoke seen 100 miles away. She slips under followed by an underwater explosion. The YAMATO sinks at 30-22 N, 128-04 E.
Prince of Wales took ten torpedoes. Repulse 12. Yamato, 12, Musashi, 19. Pretty much consistent with the differences in displacement between the bunch, although the Repulse seems to compair favorably with all of them given the effort given to sink a ship of such comparatively small displacement. OTOH, maybe all that the demise of these ships prove is that with total air supremacy, during the interval between the delivery of a mortal wound and the final plunge, a whole lot more ordnance can get dropped.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:43 pm
				by mdiehl
				I'd like to see underwater picks of Asiatic fleet. Especially Houston and Pillsbury. I doubt that IJN records give much detail on Pillsbury's position when sunk, but her crew deserve an on site memorial.
			 
			
					
				Re: Re: Yamato Wreck Images
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 9:23 pm
				by Nikademus
				Originally posted by Spearhead 
There was lately a topic in one magazine about Yamato and its destruction-in detail.Pretty cool story and pics and there was briefly mentioned other Japanese biggest battleships and that carrier too.As the story tells the Yamato took in several torpedoes from sub whose name i really cant recall and slowly sank till its main caliber ammo mostly blew up and then followed the secondary ammo for AA and smaller caliber guns and this teared Yamato apart and it went down fast and painfully with over 3000 men.This is as much as i remember from this topic,there may be some mistakes but in general it should be correct. 
 
Hi Spearhead.
Go here for more details.
showthread.php?s=&threadid=30880&perpag ... genumber=2
Yamato was killed more efficienty by the US airmen after their experiences with her sister Musashi which absorbed incredible punishment.  So with Yamato they strove to place the majority of the torpedo hits to one side.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 9:50 pm
				by showboat1
				Underwater wreck exploration is such a wonderful exercise.  The photos of the Yorktown just take my breath away.  Anyone seen the photos of all the Bikini Atoll ships that were sunk?  The Saratoga's in a particularly good spot as you can dive the wreck using scuba gear.
I too would love for Ballard to return to Midway and find the remaining ships lost there.  By the way, does anyone know if he found any wreckage of the Hammann lying near the Yorktown.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 10:01 pm
				by Nikademus
				i would love to go to Bikini some day and scuba the wreck of the Saratoga....i've seen photos and descriptions.    Heh....a little wary of all that live oridinace still sitting on her hanger deck.   Its kind of amazing in this age of "safety first" memorial warships that such wrecks are so open.
Then again, there isn't the same liability issue if someone accidently pokes a fused bomb on an unmaintained sunken warship and blows himself to the surface a tad bit more quickly then the scuba manual instructions recommend
