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Tertiary guns not firing a single shell - deliberate?
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:38 pm
by Arralen
Just fought a 1892 battle 20sm south of Tsingtao, JP against CN.
2 CL (3300ts) and 2 KE (sooo cute!! And heroic, at least as long as their squadron was set to "support". "Indy" made them run away instantly ... )

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against 2 CLs (3200 and 4500ts):
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As clearly visible, the chinese behemeoth did not fire its tertiary guns at all.
Neither did my 2 CLs.
The ships logs do not show them firing either.
No. of targets can't be a thing here, the Nan Shui had enough and quiet squishy targets to shoot at?!
Mid-battle save is available (I hope).
Re: Tertiary guns not firing a single shell - deliberate?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:31 am
by Erik Rutins
How close did you get to the enemy?
Re: Tertiary guns not firing a single shell - deliberate?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:03 am
by Arralen
From the log of NAN SHUI:
05:08:04 4 in 4090 yds Near miss! (CL Izumi, HE)
05:08:19 5 in 2968 yds Near miss! (CL Izumi, HE)
05:08:21 4 in 3435 yds Secondary battery hit (KE Keihuku Maru, HE)
05:08:21 4 in 2673 yds Superstructure hit. Shell burst limited by coal bunker (CL Izumi, AP)
05:08:26 5 in 2134 yds Superstructure hit * Fire started Main gun crews cut down by splinters (CL Izumi, AP)
05:08:28 4 in 1947 yds Secondary battery hit (CL Izumi, AP)
05:08:29 5 in 1863 yds Near miss! (CL Izumi, AP)
05:08:30 4 in 1760 yds Engine room hit B (CL Unebi, AP)
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05:11:29 4 in 799 yds Superstructure hit * (CL Izumi, AP) (here all the tert. rate guns might all have been dead already, though; looks like the log does not show hits on those guns either)
Range of those 2"Q0 guns is 4000 yards, says the ship designer ... .
Re: Tertiary guns not firing a single shell - deliberate?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:36 pm
by MaximKI
Could you please post a save if you have it on hand that shows the issue?
Re: Tertiary guns not firing a single shell - deliberate?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:31 pm
by Arralen
Re: Tertiary guns not firing a single shell - deliberate?
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:50 pm
by Arralen
Update:
Had another battle that dragged on from nearly dusk well into the night.
Tertiary guns on my BBs (4") and the AI BB (2") worked.
=> so it can't be tertiaries in general, or <4" only or a problem with the visibility?!
Tert. guns on my CL (the very same from the 1st battle) did not work, again
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The main guns of the AI BB did not fire a shot, although they did (judging from the ship info popup) track their target.
So ... there might be an issue with the 1890-start prebuild ships?!
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Edit: Uploaded the mid-battle save. Thought I already had done that, yet ... no file. Now there is!