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[REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:34 am
by Pymous
Hello Vic,

In the REGIME TAB, could you add PLAYER information in the same way than other REGIMES information?
This would Help a lot for quick comparison (especially in PBEM games)

In current state, the PLAYER have to got to many different menu in order "to try" getting those information: OVERVIEW give some of them, then to STATISTICS for military information, but many information are missing, for example you can"t get information about your own ECONOMIC summary details (like the total number of Mines level, Industry level, ....)

Basically, in current situation, you have a better summary of others REGIMES than your own :)
So the solution seems simple: simply add PLAYER Overview / Trade / Economy Details / Tech Details in the same way we see others REGIME! That would be perfect.

Thanks hopefully you'll add this small addition :)

Pymous

PS: IF you could list the "Assets types" in the same order, it would be even better for economic comparison between regimes. Same for Tech Details, but less important.

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Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:59 am
by Thrake
Agreed, good suggestion.

It may be demanding but I also think that adding the level of assets would be more helpful than what is shown. In the report industry 4 may be two level 1 industries being updated to industry 2, or it could be four industry 4. The only way to find out is to check it one zone at a time.

Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:05 am
by Pymous
True, this would be even better yes
EDIT: For me in current state: An asset "quantity 4" can means:
- 1 + 1 + 1 + 1
- 1 + 1 + 2
- 2 + 2
- 4

It's like when we are asked to improve X to level Y in events.
So if it says "Industry 4" it cannot be 4 industry of lvl 4. Am I right? (it would display 16)

Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:28 am
by Disturbance20
I've actually been mentioning this for years now in pbem games and no idea why I never submitted it as a suggestion. A great idea and would be very helpful. Hopefully it's relatively simple to implement too since the feature exists for other regimes.

Please add this!!!!!!!!

Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:48 am
by mroyer
Yes!! +1000%
I've wished this many, many times too, the same information for your own regime in exactly the same format as for other regimes. Would be a great asset and play-aid.

-Mark R.

Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:47 pm
by Soar_Slitherine
I agree with the thread's original post.
Thrake wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:59 am It may be demanding but I also think that adding the level of assets would be more helpful than what is shown. In the report industry 4 may be two level 1 industries being updated to industry 2, or it could be four industry 4. The only way to find out is to check it one zone at a time.
A number of improvements could be made to the intel reports.

The tech report seems to list researched techs in an effectively random order, and includes a bunch of techs that everyone starts with on every tech level setting which clutter up the list, making it unnecessarily difficult to find what the other regime's most recent or most advanced researched techs are.

All the reports would also be much more convenient to use if they showed what changed compared to the previous turn or report. Currently, I have to screenshot the previous report, or in many cases take two screenshots and edit them into one image because the reports are frequently too long to fit on the screen in-game, if I want to compare the values.

The information that can be found in the reports can be invaluable - especially in multiplayer, they can really telegraph another player's intentions. Unfortunately it is presented in a way that makes analyzing it rather tedious.

Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:59 pm
by Pymous
Interesting,
I agree,

To go further in the discusion:

Maybe to make information easier to read/use:
- Only List Techs that are not common between PLAYER and REGIME SELECTED (would remove all the clutter unimportant information)
- When looking at other regimes information, add a column that compare with PLAYER regime values ( - / +X).
- Use more colors / icons the highlight the differences and important informations (use red for negative / green for positive)

Mockup examples:
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Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:00 pm
by Thrake
Pymous wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:05 am True, this would be even better yes
EDIT: For me in current state: An asset "quantity 4" can means:
- 1 + 1 + 1 + 1
- 1 + 1 + 2
- 2 + 2
- 4

It's like when we are asked to improve X to level Y in events.
So if it says "Industry 4" it cannot be 4 industry of lvl 4. Am I right? (it would display 16)
My understanding is that it currently does not take into account asset level, only the quantity of assets. With the extra twist that when ugrading an asset it counts as two. I wish it worked the way you described it.

I also like the technology suggestion, it has currently valuable information but it's hard to find the actually valuable information.

More reworks like what the military report received would be great, it's much more useful than it used to.

Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:53 pm
by Soar_Slitherine
Pymous wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:59 pm Maybe to make information easier to read/use:
- Only List Techs that are not common between PLAYER and REGIME SELECTED (would remove all the clutter unimportant information)
- When looking at other regimes information, add a column that compare with PLAYER regime values ( - / +X).
- Use more colors / icons the highlight the differences and important informations (use red for negative / green for positive)

Mockup examples:
While having an easy way to compare another regime's values to yours would be useful, in my opinion being able to see what the opponent's value was last turn (or last report, either works) vs current turn is more important.

Paring down the list of binary techs to only techs not shared by the two regimes is an interesting idea, but I think it definitely needs to highlight techs that were just researched by the other regime, even if they're shared.

Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:17 am
by Pymous
Both info would be useful yes.
Maybe then use colored numbers to show if it's higher/lower, and use the arrow to show when the numbers increased from last turn, like it is elsewhere

Maybe new Tech discovered by enemy could be "highlighted" with color or something in the list
Maybe also the first "turn screen" could be improved to show such information too

Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:31 pm
by Vic
Going for the light version of this suggestion for now. Should be there next open beta.

The more interesting analytics idea... i do like them. But i for see this for later, for a more serious UI improvement at some point.

Re: [REGIME TAB] Add PLAYER information like others REGIMES

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:43 pm
by eddieballgame
Vic wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:31 pm Going for the light version of this suggestion for now. Should be there next open beta.

The more interesting analytics idea... i do like them. But i for see this for later, for a more serious UI improvement at some point.
Great suggestions & thank you Vic for considering these.