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Poland Oddities

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:05 pm
by stjeand
Anyone else notice that somehow Poland sends PP to the UK but they do not have any convoy connection?

I wonder if that is just hardcoded.

Re: Poland Oddities

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 5:46 am
by Platoonist
stjeand wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:05 pm I wonder if that is just hardcoded.
Could be. Going by where they center on the map when clicked, these UK PPs seem to originate in Lodz, Krakow and Warsaw. Poland had a tenuous connection to the West through neutral Romania, so it might represent more of a land-sea route.

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Re: Poland Oddities

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:43 pm
by Nirosi
All minors sent 2/3 of their ressources (and all oil) to their major power. So if it can find a route thought neutral countries it will do it like all others minors. But if not, it will keep and use what it can not send.

Re: Poland Oddities

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:55 pm
by stjeand
Agreed.

BUT...

Poland's resources just "appear" in the UK.

Vichy Africa has to send them via a convoy...
And if you turn them off, they resources just vanish.

I tried that because Italy would be able to sink 2 MM...when I was running low but noticed...

UK gets 0...correct.
Vichy gets 3...incorrect.

BUT back to Poland...

IF their resources were going through the Med...well I am fine with that...just can't seem to find them is all.

Re: Poland Oddities

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:32 pm
by Nirosi
Hum.. long shot I know, but could they be going by the Persian Gulf convoy instead? I would be very strange, but maybe that is how the AI decided to reroute them? Or Maybe even through neutral Balkans countries, then Italy [not sure if possible], then France, then Atlantic?

Not sure what you mean By Vichy get's 3... incorrect? Do you mean that Vichy Africa sends it ressources to an unconquered Vichy mainland France when not sending them to UK?

Re: Poland Oddities

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:12 pm
by stjeand
Vichy NA gets 5 PP per turn...2 go to UK and they keep 3.

They are transferred via the Med convoy route.
When active I see 2 MM on the route...
That is what I meant. IF I disable the Med convoy route...they continue to receive just 3 PP per turn rather than the expected 5 since the 2 they are supposed to send to the UK have stopped.

As for Poland...just not idea where the PP get transferred from...

I have cut off all rail lines out of Poland before and they still arrive in the UK...which is odd to me.

Re: Poland Oddities

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:14 pm
by Nirosi
stjeand wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:12 pm That is what I meant. IF I disable the Med convoy route...they continue to receive just 3 PP per turn rather than the expected 5 since the 2 they are supposed to send to the UK have stopped.

As for Poland...just not idea where the PP get transferred from...

I have cut off all rail lines out of Poland before and they still arrive in the UK...which is odd to me.
Hum... sounds more and more like a small bug in both cases....

Re: Poland Oddities

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:24 pm
by stjeand
WELL I think I figured out the Poland piece...

They just get the resources turn 1...due to the start.

On turn 2 there seems to be no route and they resources vanish from the PP chart...SO I am good with that.


Though the disabling of a convoy route should keep the resources and does not appear too.
I try it with the North Atlantic route...and Canada always gets 18 PP...whether on or off.

Re: Poland Oddities

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:11 pm
by Nirosi
stjeand wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:24 pm WELL I think I figured out the Poland piece...

They just get the resources turn 1...due to the start.

On turn 2 there seems to be no route and they resources vanish from the PP chart...SO I am good with that.


Though the disabling of a convoy route should keep the resources and does not appear too.
I try it with the North Atlantic route...and Canada always gets 18 PP...weather on or off.
Nice find!

Re: Poland Oddities

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:40 am
by AlvaroSousa
As Germany you should easily be able to shut them down.

Think of it like.... Turn 1 they sent them the Enigma machine + their scientists.