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Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:32 pm
by DarkHorse2
I can't seem to find how Air Group renaming is configured in the editor.

(to be clear... not talking about AOG renaming, but Air Group renaming...)
(I can see how to do it with AOGs... but not Air Groups...) :?

Consider 2.(F)/AufklarGr 33

How is the T28 rename of 2.(F)/AufklarGr 33 -> 2.(H)/AufklarGr 33 configured in the Editor?

What am I missing :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:15 pm
by DarkHorse2
Can't see how you are renaming units via the editor either. However, it shows up when viewing the reinforcement schedules....

Also, I can see various "Renaming" fields in the unit CSV tables, but they are all '0'.

Maybe this was never fully implemented in the Editor?

Personally, I would prefer having a fully functioning pre-existing editor before venturing off on developing a new one... which has an even less chance of ever being completed....

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Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:20 pm
by Wiedrock
Renames -> New Editor

Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:52 pm
by DarkHorse2
Wiedrock wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:20 pm Renames -> New Editor
Lovely.

I see it there now. So you have to use the other, incomplete editor, to access the unit / air group renaming features?

(1 complete editor) > (2 incomplete editors)

No idea where they are storing the Air Group rename data as can't find it in any CSV export. Suspect it is being saved off in one of the .dat files.

I was thinking that, perhaps, renaming an Air Unit could be implemented in a game event. But no, the game events are so limited they barely touch on any game object data field for modification.
:(

Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:17 pm
by Wiedrock
In the old Editor you can
- rename stuff bottom left of the AG options "Use to rename:0".
- AOGs you can simply use the Rename - Add Rename stuff.
...not sure how all that interacts with the new Editor.

Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:09 pm
by DarkHorse2
Show me. Post screen capture of what you are talking about.

I already know how the old editor renames AOGs. I cannot find where Air Group renames are even displayed in the old editor.

Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:46 pm
by DarkHorse2
The in-game renaming of an existing Air Group was not a feature of WiTW IIRC. Could not find any reference to it in the WiTW Editor manual.

Suspect it was new to WiTE2 and appears to have only been partially implemented.

Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:55 pm
by Wiedrock
DarkHorse2 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:09 pm Show me. Post screen capture of what you are talking about.

I already know how the old editor renames AOGs. I cannot find where Air Group renames are even displayed in the old editor.
sA

Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:12 pm
by DarkHorse2
I looked at that for some of the existing Air Group renames, and could not see it even being used.

For example, I looked for 2.(H)/AufklarGr 33, which I suspected would be referenced in the field.

But no... did not exist.

Also, that field is set to 0 for 2.(F)/AufklarGr 33 (see previous screen-cap).

Open up GC41 and show where the renames exist in the current scenario data.

They are not being shown.

Because I should see a 2.(H)/AufklarGr 33 in the Air Groups with an ID - which is referenced from 2.(F)/AufklarGr 33.

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Followup...
I manually created a new 2.(rename test)/AufklarGr 33 Air Group and referenced from 2.(F)/AufklarGr 33.

The rename shows up from the Editor Air Group list now, but it does NOT show up in the UI's Reinforcements View... like it isn't really being used by the game.
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Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:55 pm
by DarkHorse2
Saved Scenario, Reloaded...

The manually entered rename (Turn 27) does not show up in the Game UI.


Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:03 pm
by Wiedrock
DarkHorse2 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:55 pm Saved Scenario, Reloaded...

The manually entered rename (Turn 27) does not show up in the Game UI.
Maybe they disabled the function in the old editor already, since in the new one you don't need a "slot" for the rename anymore. So you just need to see the new Editor not as a new Editor but as a part of the old Editor with good Search Bar and nice renaming functions. So and all is alright! ;)

Re: Can't find how Air Group renaming works in the editor

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:51 pm
by DarkHorse2
I will double check an older installation (1st year beta), but I don't believe they disabled anything in the old editor as I don't believe it ever existed to begin with.