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Game review

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:17 am
by ElizabethRStevenson
The game played very easily and the controls were intiutive.
The WEGO system was a good solution to the issue that turn based games feels very gamey.
An overview of what was going on as I played was automatically provided.

The bad:

When it is your turn to play, the previous turn is played like a movie, you just have to sit there and watch it. You may not interact with the game as it's in movie mode for the time being. No options for removing the movies and replacing them with a list of events with summaries of casualties and if ground was lost or taken seems to exist, attempts to force the computer to play the movies at 4 times faster speed failed.

Overall recommend the game for fans of the operational art of war and decisive campaign, as it is their equal in terms of quality, and similar in how it plays - just turn based except there's a third computers turn were it moves both sides at the same time while making a movie which is the afforementioned movie that the game will force you to watch.

Plays very well against other humans do to WEGO system.

Re: Game review

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:16 am
by bcgames
Non-Player Character.

Re: Game review

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:40 am
by Edmon
bcgames wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:16 am Non-Player Character.
Let's not make comments like this at people, thanks.

If you disagree with this persons opinion, explain why.

Re: Game review

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:41 pm
by Zovs
Edmon wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:40 am
bcgames wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:16 am Non-Player Character.
Let's not make comments like this at people, thanks.

If you disagree with this persons opinion, explain why.
I thought that NPC are part of the fantasy type of games, such as D&D, so kind of scratching my head on the usage of NPC in this context. I don't play D&D but I recall from decades ago when I was a teenager in the 80s and played a few D&D games the "Dungeon Master" would use NPC for things like "you meet a wizard carrying a bag, do you want to speak to him" type of things. But I am old and maybe I am not groking something here.

Re: Game review

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:57 pm
by Edmon
Zovs wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:41 pm
Edmon wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:40 am
bcgames wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:16 am Non-Player Character.
Let's not make comments like this at people, thanks.

If you disagree with this persons opinion, explain why.
I thought that NPC are part of the fantasy type of games, such as D&D, so kind of scratching my head on the usage of NPC in this context. I don't play D&D but I recall from decades ago when I was a teenager in the 80s and played a few D&D games the "Dungeon Master" would use NPC for things like "you meet a wizard carrying a bag, do you want to speak to him" type of things. But I am old and maybe I am not groking something here.
It's an insult like any other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPC_(meme)

Re: Game review

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:21 pm
by Sunbather
Edmon wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:40 am
bcgames wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:16 am Non-Player Character.
Let's not make comments like this at people, thanks.

If you disagree with this persons opinion, explain why.
You sure are spreading happiness here and on the Steam forums. Everyone's just loving people policing language (mild language to begin with). Someone who complains that a WEGO (!) game includes situations in which you can't control your units, is like complaining that in turn-based games you have to click a button called "next turn". It entirely justifies a snarky remark from the developer.

Re: Game review

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:21 pm
by governato
Sunbather wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:21 pm
Edmon wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:40 am
bcgames wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:16 am Non-Player Character.
Let's not make comments like this at people, thanks.

If you disagree with this persons opinion, explain why.
You sure are spreading happiness here and on the Steam forums. Everyone's just loving people policing language (mild language to begin with). Someone who complains that a WEGO (!) game includes situations in which you can't control your units, is like complaining that in turn-based games you have to click a button called "next turn". It entirely justifies a snarky remark from the developer.
I have been interacting with Sainth Ruth (the developer/designer of the game) and bcgames since their first game "Desert War". Early in the development of "WEGO Stalingrad" (I was in the alpha testing team) I decided to interact only with Saint Ruth and keep a healthy distance from bcgames. I have found bcgames 'snarky' comments unnecessary and unconstructive (I am being polite) in several occasions. My opinion was shared by other members of the testing team, which was mainly formed by people with experience with intense (but knowledgeable) interactions in their field of expertise, so... not easily offended.

The most ironic thing is that I recommended this game to the user who opened this thread. They are a long term and valued members of the TOAW forum and I wanted to introduce them to this fun game that has so far poor visibility.
TOAW has been around for 25+ years and it still has a large audience. WEGO...I will let the readers decide how active this forum is and how easy is to voice dissenting opinions or just personal impressions or suggestions on the game.

I mostly talk wth Saint Ruth via PM. He is great to interact with. I encourage other people to do that if you care about WEGO Stalingrad and you are interested in making it better. Or of course be amused and then shut down by random snarky comments if you feel you have the time and the disposition for it.

And btw I agree, the movie feature is rather clunky.

Re: Game review

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:02 am
by bcgames
I guess I'm done here.

Thanks for those who have enjoyed my designs.

Good-bye.

Re: Game review

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:27 am
by Edmon
Sunbather wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:21 pm
Edmon wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:40 am
bcgames wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:16 am Non-Player Character.
Let's not make comments like this at people, thanks.

If you disagree with this persons opinion, explain why.
You sure are spreading happiness here and on the Steam forums. Everyone's just loving people policing language (mild language to begin with). Someone who complains that a WEGO (!) game includes situations in which you can't control your units, is like complaining that in turn-based games you have to click a button called "next turn". It entirely justifies a snarky remark from the developer.
We have some very simple and relaxed rules on this forum, and steam has their own similar rules. The one key thing they have in common:
Steam Rules wrote: Be respectful of yourself and other players
Interactions with other players should not be abusive, disparaging, or inflammatory, nor create an environment that is unwelcoming.

Examples of disrespectful content include:
Insults or harassment
Matrix Rules wrote: 5. No Trolling. Trolling is whenever someone is clearly, deliberately posting in a manner for the purpose of angering and/or insulting the other participants of the message board. Trolling could be directed towards one user or a group of users. Trolling DOES NOT encourage further discussion; it only encourages personal attacks and will not be tolerated.

8. No rude or disrespectful posts to or about any forum moderators or Matrix Games Staff. We will not tolerate any forum member acting in this manner.

If someone reports a post and it's blantantly insulting, with no redeeming qualities, you'll get a warning. If the rules aren't enforced, they might as well not exist. I do regret having to intervene, as I'd rather be helping new players with how to win campaigns, tech support, etc. But nevertheless, the rules apply to everyone, no matter how many posts they have or what they have contributed.

bcgames wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:02 am I guess I'm done here.

Thanks for those who have enjoyed my designs.

Good-bye.
That is your choice to make, enforcing the rules is not my choice to make. So that everyone can enjoy the our communities, insults and provocations are not allowed and it unfortunately falls on me to make sure the guidelines are followed.

I would like to remind everyone that creative and/or obscure insults are still insults.

All we ask is that, if you can't be nice, you at least be civil... come on guys :(.

Regards,
Edmon

Re: Game review

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:13 pm
by Okayrun3254
governato wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:21 pm
Sunbather wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:21 pm
Edmon wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:40 am

Let's not make comments like this at people, thanks.

If you disagree with this persons opinion, explain why.
You sure are spreading happiness here and on the Steam forums. Everyone's just loving people policing language (mild language to begin with). Someone who complains that a WEGO (!) game includes situations in which you can't control your units, is like complaining that in turn-based games you have to click a button called "next turn". It entirely justifies a snarky remark from the developer.
I have been interacting with Sainth Ruth (the developer/designer of the game) and bcgames since their first game "Desert War". Early in the development of "WEGO Stalingrad" (I was in the alpha testing team) I decided to interact only with Saint Ruth and keep a healthy distance from bcgames. I have found bcgames 'snarky' comments unnecessary and unconstructive (I am being polite) in several occasions. My opinion was shared by other members of the testing team, which was mainly formed by people with experience with intense (but knowledgeable) interactions in their field of expertise, so... not easily offended.

The most ironic thing is that I recommended this game to the user who opened this thread. They are a long term and valued members of the TOAW forum and I wanted to introduce them to this fun game that has so far poor visibility.
TOAW has been around for 25+ years and it still has a large audience. WEGO...I will let the readers decide how active this forum is and how easy is to voice dissenting opinions or just personal impressions or suggestions on the game.

I mostly talk wth Saint Ruth via PM. He is great to interact with. I encourage other people to do that if you care about WEGO Stalingrad and you are interested in making it better. Or of course be amused and then shut down by random snarky comments if you feel you have the time and the disposition for it.

And btw I agree, the movie feature is rather clunky.

I am a playtester for this game and have been playing since Desert War came out too. I have communicated directly with bcgames since the beginning, and have never experienced the negative comments that you say you experienced. If anything, I always receive a quick response to any of my questions, and had the opportunity to have fun playing the game with one of the developers. What I have seen of bcgames support over the years is the following, just to name a few:

1. He has always been very helpful to new-comers to the game.
2. Always open to play a game with anyone of any skill level.
3. Gives out great links to research sites to forum.
4. Gives players incredible amount of input into the game.

I don't think there are too many other game developers that provide this much time for their customers. I think this is a brilliant game, the support from bcgames and St. Ruth over the years has been exceptional.

Re: Game review

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:38 am
by bcgames
Edmon was just doing his job.

Re: Game review

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:46 pm
by ElizabethRStevenson
bcgames wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:16 am Non-Player Character.
Are you aware of the trait assigned of the npc stereotype/insult which is not forming independent thought but just copying whatever other people think? I am wondering because it's absolutely the main trait and the fundamental of the entire insult, and so I would assume you, someone who uses the insult would know this. But then that comes with the implication that the majority of people agree with me, do you think that's accurate, and if so, do you think the game should adapt to my suggestions?

Also, why insult me at all, from my point of view I wrote a fairly harmless post it's hard for me to see how it could trigger an emotional response that would trigger this course of action. I look back at my post and I find it to be dull and boring, and I cannot even reading one sentence at a time and reflecting on it, find anything that I can use to explain why it'd make someone upset.

Genuinely curious about the three questions.

Re: Game review

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:47 am
by bcgames
ElizabethRStevenson wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:46 pm "...I look back at my post and I find it to be dull and boring..."
Want to play a scenario? You pick. We can be heroes...just for one day.

Re: Game review

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:14 am
by Rosseau
Ah, these sorts of kind responses warm me old heart... WEGO is a really good series, and I believe we're all doing the best we can considering the circumstances. :)

- Mike

Re: Game review

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:09 am
by ElizabethRStevenson
bcgames wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:47 am
ElizabethRStevenson wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:46 pm "...I look back at my post and I find it to be dull and boring..."
Want to play a scenario? You pick. We can be heroes...just for one day.
Ok I'll be the Germans

Re: Game review

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:10 am
by bcgames
Axis it is. Challenge posted.

Password: Elizabeth

I will see you there. Best of luck!

v/r

bcgames