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[1328.14] PAC-2 weapon issue in message log

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:33 pm
by thewood1
From this weird and meandering thread...

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=401343

There seems to be an issue with PAC-2 in the final end-game. Its not missing, its just plain losing lock in the terminal phase. I have checked PAC-3 and its ARH so its not a PAC radar issue. I have checked several other SARH SAMs and they work. So its specific to PAC-2. It almost seems like the AI thinks the PAC-2 is ARH. So when it gets close to the target, it drops the illuminating radar. But there is not ARH to guide the last 10 miles.

I have set it up clean. You just have to declare the aircraft hostile. I removed countermeasures from the Su-35 to expose the issue better.

Re: [1328.14] PAC-2 weapon issue in message log

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:58 pm
by fitzpatv
Did you check the SA-10a and b Grumble?. I suspect it was suffering from the same problem in my Hormuz Hoedown playthrough. Couldn't see the missiles in action but there was a similar lack of hit calculations from 58 shots (according to Losses and Expenditures) and my HARM strike did much better than I expected. Other Soviet and Iranian SAMs seemed to be working OK, as did the RIM-66A from my side.

Re: [1328.14] PAC-2 weapon issue in message log

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:08 pm
by thewood1
How about instead...why don't you post a save?

Re: [1328.14] PAC-2 weapon issue in message log

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:11 am
by Tcao
This impacts all the TVM missiles
SA-10b/S-300PS and SA-21a/S-400 are also impacted by this bug

SA-10a is not, because in DB it is listed as a SARH missile.

Re: [1328.14] PAC-2 weapon issue in message log

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:57 am
by blu3s
Thanks for the report and additional tests,

Logged 0015563

Re: [1328.14] PAC-2 weapon issue in message log

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:30 am
by Dimitris
Just to make sure we're looking at the same issue, is this what you are observing? :

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Re: [1328.14] PAC-2 weapon issue in message log

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:35 am
by Dimitris
Tcao wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:11 am This impacts all the TVM missiles
SA-10b/S-300PS and SA-21a/S-400 are also impacted by this bug

SA-10a is not, because in DB it is listed as a SARH missile.
This comparison save is particularly useful; thank you.

(And the very early SA-10A was indeed a SARH rather than SAGG/TVM system; they cut a lot of corners in order to field the system ASAP.)

Re: [1328.14] PAC-2 weapon issue in message log

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:06 am
by thewood1
Yes

Re: [1328.14] PAC-2 weapon issue in message log

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:22 am
by Dimitris
Okay, I _think_ we managed to solve this for the next update, but I'll hold on confirmation.