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Serious issue with KEs: peace--> scrapped
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:13 am
by mrchuck
Just completed a rather nice war with France for which I had 19 KEs on TP. Saved out last night and restarted it today.
I've just noticed (a few turns after peace broke out) that all my KEs which were in TP have been scrapped. Problem is, I didn't do it. 1.00.37
I now have a serious TP problem which will be hard to sort out before another war happens along.
You guys have a lot of nasty bugs in this game, for all its great merit _most_ of the time.
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Re: Serious issue with KEs: peace--> scrapped
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:59 pm
by WLRoo
Sorry, that's WAD.
KEs of 500t or less can only be built in wartime and are considered to be impressed civilian (fishing) vessels - and are automatically scrapped at the end of the war.
This is covered on page 133 of the manual.
Re: Serious issue with KEs: peace--> scrapped
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:00 am
by mrchuck
But all the 500 tonners were all converted DDs. Hardly impressed vessels...Navy all the way?
Re: Serious issue with KEs: peace--> scrapped
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:59 am
by Searry
Converted DDs should not be scrapped. It's bugged I think unless something has changed.
Re: Serious issue with KEs: peace--> scrapped
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:12 pm
by MaximKI
Do you mind dropping us a save demonstrating the issue?
Re: Serious issue with KEs: peace--> scrapped
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:21 pm
by WLRoo
mrchuck wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:00 am
But all the 500 tonners were all converted DDs. Hardly impressed vessels...Navy all the way?
Yes, that is different. The same issue has been highlighted on the NWS forums as well, albeit in the suggestions section.
I rather suspect it will need a new flag adding to cover such an instance, because AFAIK the game only tracks current class, and a fair bit of data gets ignored in conversions.
Re: Serious issue with KEs: peace--> scrapped
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:47 pm
by Squarehead
Yeah DDs rebuilt into corvettes for escort duty really shouldn't be scrapped like that, but it's an issue I remember running into way back in RtW2 days. If you keep a single torpedo tube and don't drop the speed too low and then the ship stays classed DD and there's no risk of the game selling the ship our from under you.
Using slow destroyers (sloops?) vs corvettes as trade protection ships is kinda weird though because despite being very similar ships they don't seem work quite the same way, I guess as a result of their classification. Corvettes will pretty regularly be encountering enemy surface raiders while the destroyer never will for example, which doesn't really make sense as the ships would be in the same place doing the same mission.