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11.16.5 Resolving attacks
Add up the attacking units’ (modified) combat factors, shore bombardment and ground support. Round the total to the nearest whole
number (rounding 0.5 up). Total the defending units’ factors in the same way.
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Odds ratios
Compare the attacker’s total to the defender’s total and work out the basic ratio between them.
Tonight I am very sleepy, but I think this means that you round the ratio as well, not only the attacker or defender's total. Although I thought you didnt round the totals. In this last part I was mistaken because the attacker and defender's total are not rounded before the ratio anymore in the more modern versions (WIFCE).ODDS RATIOS
11.16.5. RESOLVING ATTACKS
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Compare the attacker’s total to the defender’s total and work out the basic ratio between them.
Round the ratio to a whole number. Always round in favor of the defender. For example, 19:5 rounds to 3:1, not 4:1.
Option 40: (Chinese attack weakness) Halve the combat factors of Nationalist Chinese land units that are attacking.
Option 41: (Fractional odds) Round to a whole number in favor of the defender, then work out how far to the next odds ratio you are. Round this in favor of the defender to the next 10%.
Roll a die just before rolling the combat die (you could roll it with the combat die if you want), to see if you find the result on the lower odds or the higher odds. If you roll the percentage or less, you resolve it on the next higher odds, otherwise on the lower odds
One rounds before calculating an odds ratio, thus both the attacker and defender round their combat strength. Nowhere in that list does it say anything about rounding before a combat roll. Combat ratios are not rounded. You are not comparing the ratio to a die roll. (Examples of where you do compare to a die roll are ground strikes and bottoming.)2.6. FRACTIONS
Round off a number immediately before:
- Calculating an odds ratio; or
- Looking the number up in a table; or
- Comparing it to a dice roll or to a fixed value; or
- Spending oil (see 13.5.1) or build points.
Doesnt this? After all, English is not my native language but I would say they are rounding odd ratios, which comes from dividing attacker's force by defender's force.Courtenay wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:15 pmOne rounds before calculating an odds ratio, thus both the attacker and defender round their combat strength. Nowhere in that list does it say anything about rounding before a combat roll. Combat ratios are not rounded. You are not comparing the ratio to a die roll. (Examples of where you do compare to a die roll are ground strikes and bottoming.)2.6. FRACTIONS
Round off a number immediately before:
- Calculating an odds ratio; or
- Looking the number up in a table; or
- Comparing it to a dice roll or to a fixed value; or
- Spending oil (see 13.5.1) or build points.
Option 41: (Fractional odds) Round to a whole number in favor of the defender, then work out how far to the next odds ratio you are. Round this in favor of the defender to the next 10%.
Option 41: (Fractional odds) Round to a whole number in favour of the defender, then work out how far to the next odds ratio you are.
Round this in favour of the defender to the next 10%. Roll a die just before rolling the combat die (you could roll it with the combat die if you want), to see if you find the result on the lower odds or the higher odds. If you roll the percentage or less, you resolve it on the next higher odds, otherwise on the lower odds.
Example 1: 12:7 rounds to 3:2. But you have a spare 1.5 factors. This is 42.9% of the way to 2:1 (i.e. 1.5/3.5). So you get a 40% chance (i.e. a roll of 1-4) of resolving the combat at 2:1.
Example 2: 35:6 is 5.83:1 which rounds down to 5:1 but with an 80% chance of resolving the combat at 6:1.
I think the confusion, as I understand it, is there are two roundings.Joseignacio wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:04 am I believe the example in the RAW would make it clearer that there is a rounding afterwards (I omitted it for brevity):
Option 41: (Fractional odds) Round to a whole number in favour of the defender, then work out how far to the next odds ratio you are.
Round this in favour of the defender to the next 10%. Roll a die just before rolling the combat die (you could roll it with the combat die if you want), to see if you find the result on the lower odds or the higher odds. If you roll the percentage or less, you resolve it on the next higher odds, otherwise on the lower odds.
Example 1: 12:7 rounds to 3:2. But you have a spare 1.5 factors. This is 42.9% of the way to 2:1 (i.e. 1.5/3.5). So you get a 40% chance (i.e. a roll of 1-4) of resolving the combat at 2:1.
Example 2: 35:6 is 5.83:1 which rounds down to 5:1 but with an 80% chance of resolving the combat at 6:1.
Yes. He's playing with 2D10. So, his modified land combat result would be 2D10 + 7 + f. f = 0, if not playing with fractional odds or he didn't make it. Otherwise 1. So, f is your final round down.Joseignacio wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:52 am So, I infere that in the case Angeldust is offering, the final rounding has not been made.