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I'm wondering if there's a better way of doing this, and I could have sworn at some point that it didn't work this way.

In this scenario, the designer has made quite heavy use of groups for enemy ground units - targets, air defences etc. I generally run everything in group view by default because it make the most sense for controlling friendly units - I want to order a flight to do something rather than an individual unit. However, because the enemy units are grouped, this means they don't show up unless I switch to individual view. Not even ghosted group members show up (they do for friendly / own forces). If I select the 'group' of enemy units, it doesn't highlight or show group members at all in group view. If I select a group of SAMs, I will get the threat rings, but with nothing at the centre of each threat ring.

This makes things like SAM sites really awkward to find unless I continually switch from group to unit view, which is cumbersome.

Is this the intended behaviour? Or have I gotten something set incorrectly? I've attached screenshots showing unit vs group view, and my display settings.

Do you have God's Eye view on. I just ran a scenario and didn't see this issue. But in GEV, I always remember seeing enemy units as groups.

thewood1 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:41 pm Do you have God's Eye view on. I just ran a scenario and didn't see this issue. But in GEV, I always remember seeing enemy units as groups.

I'm afraid not. This is not running in editor mode, so GEV isn't available to be toggled on/off.

I just double checked. I was looking at air units and your comments are validated. Groups are showing up for enemy units for grouped facilities.

The easiest way to resolve this is deleting the land units groups in the editor mode. (unless the units are really close I don't understand why scen designers use groups in land units)

One thing is it unclutters the map significantly. But I'm pretty sure the OP is right that it wasn't always like this. Why would land units behave differently than ship or aircraft groups? I saw no change note on this as far back as pre-Tiny.

blu3s wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:19 pm The easiest way to resolve this is deleting the land units groups in the editor mode. (unless the units are really close I don't understand why scen designers use groups in land units)

One reason is it makes it easy to do things like set the EMCON for radars etc. I'm sure you could do it all through lua without groups, but this is one way of very easily controlling them.