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Low TB defense value
Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 9:06 pm
by M60A3TTS
Anyone know what low value is in this context? The overall requirements are above 100% so obviously something else is at work here.

Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 8:39 am
by quantas
What is the air percentage in this TB?
Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 2:43 pm
by FortTell
M60A3TTS wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 9:06 pm
Anyone know what low value is in this context? The overall requirements are above 100% so obviously something else is at work here.
The tooltip is bugged, is says GROUND no matter which defense value is low (below 90% if you were to remove the currently selected unit)
Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 9:13 pm
by M60A3TTS
quantas wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 8:39 am
What is the air percentage in this TB?
136%
Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 3:49 pm
by quantas
that should be enough to transfer some of the air groups out of the TB
Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 12:01 pm
by Falkenhausen
Same happened with my Balkan TB in my game.

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Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 4:42 pm
by Joel Billings
There is a display bug, but as for not being able to send units out of the TBs, do either of you have saves you can provide? I'm moving this to the tech support area. You can attach saves in this thread after zipping them up, or can email them to
2by3@2by3games.com. If these are MP games, please provide the player names and turn number. Thanks.
Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 6:29 pm
by M60A3TTS
It's now on the Beta FTP server, Bug Saves folder, file name su-49a. It's my MP game with jubjub.
Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 12:54 am
by Joel Billings
Thanks for the save. I can't explain the Balkans, but it looks like you are short in naval requirement, so I think that is blocking the aircraft from leaving. I ran it a few turns and put more patrol a/c into the NF and once naval came up, I was able to transfer out aircraft units that would keep it over 90% of the limit. Looks like you need to bring in a few patrol/recon units to free up other air units to leave. I'll see if we can explain the Balkans situation.
Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 1:48 pm
by Falkenhausen
Joel Billings wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 12:54 am
Thanks for the save. I can't explain the Balkans, but it looks like you are short in naval requirement, so I think that is blocking the aircraft from leaving. I ran it a few turns and put more patrol a/c into the NF and once naval came up, I was able to transfer out aircraft units that would keep it over 90% of the limit. Looks like you need to bring in a few patrol/recon units to free up other air units to leave. I'll see if we can explain the Balkans situation.
Here's the save.
I must confess one thing beforehand. This is a modified scenario that unlocks most of the theatre box units. I also using modified data that slightly increase the production of AA, arty, and foreign tanks. You can see it from the logistic phase report. However, I don't think it causes this specific problem.
Re: Low TB defense value
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 9:10 pm
by Joel Billings
Removing III./JG 27 would drop the Balkans TB air value below 90% of required, so the move is not allowed.