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How does MWIF handle Break Down pool (with Unlimited Breakdown option)?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 10:14 am
by Joseignacio
I mean:
If you are not using this optional, I understand that once you split your unit (supposing it is possible) you get your Corps back for the pool. At least that is how it works in WIF, AFAIK.
If you are using the optional, I guess you dont because then you could split a big number of corps (if you have few units for building), and get the divs plus the corps again in the pool.
Do the corps stay in the Break Down Pool till all their compòsing divisions are destroyed or forever or what?
Are they part of the Force Pool or are they separated and not eligible for construction till that moment?
Regards
Re: How does MWIF handle Break Down pool (with Unlimited Breakdown option)?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 3:52 am
by rkr1958
Joseignacio wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 10:14 am
I mean:
If you are not using this optional, I understand that once you split your unit (supposing it is possible) you get your Corps back for the pool. At least that is how it works in WIF, AFAIK.
If you are using the optional, I guess you dont because then you could split a big number of corps (if you have few units for building), and get the divs plus the corps again in the pool.
Do the corps stay in the Break Down Pool till all their compòsing divisions are destroyed or forever or what?
Are they part of the Force Pool or are they separated and not eligible for construction till that moment?
Regards
There's a breakdown pool where all corps/armies that have been broken down go. Also, division resulting from breakdowns that are destroyed go there too. At the end of the turn, if 2 divisions that were broken down from a corps/army are in the breakdown pool (i.e., both have been destroyed) then they are "recombined" and the corps/army from which they were broken down is returned to the force pool. The two divisions then go to the removed force pool. I'm not sure if divs in the removed pool are reused or not.
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Re: How does MWIF handle Break Down pool (with Unlimited Breakdown option)?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 7:33 pm
by Joseignacio
Thanks,
If I am right, since in WIF there are few divisions, and there is not the temptation to divide huge numbers to make invasions, be transported on cruisers or take the first loss, once you divide the corps you send it back to Force pool, since you already deducted two divs from it. The rules of WIF dont say so but imply it if we apply the same logic as when Reforming.
Breaking down
You build divisions in the usual way (see 13.6.5). Alternatively, you can break down an on-map face-up corps or army that isn’t in an enemy ZOC into divisions at the start of the production step. Each corps or army breaks down into 1 division of the same type and 1 INF or MOT division (your choice). SS corps break down into 1 equivalent SS division and 1 SS or normal INF or MOT division.
When you break down a corps or army, you can select any divisions from your force pools but their total combat factors can’t exceed half (rounding up) those of the corps or army you break down.
If there aren’t enough divisions in your force pools to break down a corps or army, you can remove them from anywhere on the maps to make up the shortfall.
Reforming
Divisions can reform into a corps or army. If 2 face-up divisions are stacked together outside of enemy ZOCs at the end of the production step, and 1 of them is a MOT division, you can reform a corps or army of the same type as the other division. If there are no corps or armies of that type available, you can reform them as an INF corps or army instead.
Choose the corps or army randomly from the force pools. Keep picking until you find one that has combat factors less than twice those of the 2 divisions.
Put the divisions back into the force pools and replace them on the map with the reformed corps or army.
So, I understand that working the way you say makes sense for Unlimited Breakdown only. But your post clarifies what happens in this case, which is what my question was about.