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Pretty obvious from the attached screenshot, arty will arrive in 60 mins, but for some unknown reason it's not listed in Reinforcements and Withdrawals tab. I think I've seen this happen more than once and it looks like a bug to me.

I am not able to replicate in my version of the game. Do you have a save game from that point in time that we could look at to see what is going on? Thanks for posting the issue.

Had that happen again in another scenario. Save is in the attachment.

Version is steam beta.

It is weird. It does not show in your save I loaded, but the units show when I load it from the game on my machines. Can you go into the Scenario editor and get me a screenshot of the date shown on the Scenario Parameters page? Thanks.

You'd have to tell me more detailed steps on what should i do in the editor.

Either way the problem is not that the units are not listed from the start, they actually are. But they disappear from the list way too early. I'm attaching saves from the same scenario/campaign.

Save from 15:37 has them listed correctly arriving in 143+ minutes (that is 18:00). In save from 16:08 they are not listed anymore.

Thanks for the additional info. We will track this down.

Some more oddities in the East German Campaign. 2 batteries of 2S3 showing as arrival in 146 minutes which is after the scenario has ended, not on reinforcements tab and not available for use.

And unless I am missing something the issue has carried over to the next scenario in the campaign with arty assets arriving after the scenario end time - so no fires support. which makes it more challenging...

And I checked back to the start of Kitchen Sink. 18 x 2S3 listed on Mission Brief, 6 shown on FS panel, none in reinforcements so there is a glitch somewhere.

Peter, I know there are a couple of scenarios that have after the battle reinforcements for score balance, but we should have them being noted in the Staff report.

OK, fair enough and I have now seen a tool tip flash up on the OOB saying arrival after end of scenario so it is clearly intended rather than a glitch.
But what purpose does this serve and how does it impact on scenario scoring etc? Red can never lose the VP for these assets?

I believe those units which arrive in reinforcements after the end of a scenario in a campaign are part of your core force, so it's to keep things working, without those units being available in that particular scenario in the campaign.

Yeessss but....its the little inconsistencies that are frustrating. Screenshot of FS from start of EG1 SN5 show all arty assets but by the end only the ones that have arrived are showing (not sure how long into the scenario they 'disappeared'. And the scenario results / campaign assessment seem to be contradictory - tactical loss in the scenario final report but campaign summary shows a decisive loss.

And I am sceptical about the campaign Claims in 6.2 - seems very low for 5 scenarios. Not critical for the operation of the game or final analysis but leaves a few queries in the mind.

We will be looking at both issues to make the information more clear and kill any bugs causing info to vanish at the wrong time. Thanks for posting the issues.