Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:23 pm
What’s the best way to replenish aircraft on carriers, as American (besides transferring whole new units onto them)?
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Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:51 pm
Use the get replacement aircraft function.
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:17 pm
That’s only in ports though?
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:28 pm
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:50 pm
Either in a port with enough supply (20,000+, I think) or from a VR squadron that's in range.
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:32 am
May I ask what VR stands for?Admiral DadMan wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:50 pm Either in a port with enough supply (20,000+, I think) or from a VR squadron that's in range.
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:20 am
The full term is VRF. It stands for Navy Ferry Squadron. You could also think of the "R" standing for "reserve" if that helps you remember. These are special naval air units stationed on some escort carriers and usable as a source of replacement aircraft for nearby carriers. They start showing up in August 1942 along with their escort carriers.
They are not meant to used as combat squadrons. They start oversize with two VRF units per CVE, filling the CVE to its maximum carrying capacity. Once the capacity falls then you can use them in a combat role. However, their main purpose is to serve as a source of planes and pilots to replace losses on the larger carriers while at sea.
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:53 pm
This is very good advice. Since VRFs are a source of replacement pilots I sometimes offload them at a rear area airbase & set them to train for a while.Platoonist wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:20 amThe full term is VRF. It stands for Navy Ferry Squadron. You could also think of the "R" standing for "reserve" if that helps you remember. These are special naval air units stationed on some escort carriers and usable as a source of replacement aircraft for nearby carriers. They start showing up in August 1942 along with their escort carriers.
They are not meant to used as combat squadrons. They start oversize with two VRF units per CVE, filling the CVE to its maximum carrying capacity. Once the capacity falls then you can use them in a combat role. However, their main purpose is to serve as a source of planes and pilots to replace losses on the larger carriers while at sea.
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:26 am
VRF-squadrons are good source of Navy pilots, no need to even offload them from CVEs (unless you want extra CVEs and man them with USMC units).
In 1944, USN has almost too many CVEs, so it's more for 1943.
In 1944, USN has almost too many CVEs, so it's more for 1943.
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:43 am
Those CVEs start coming in during later 1942.
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:43 am
I believe there is a bug to do with the pilots in the Air replacement Unit (VR). If you transfer manually then only the ac are received. In auto with ‘Replacements on’ then both ac and pilots are transferred, I don’t think should be?
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:47 pm
Yeah, I've noticed that to. But I don't remember if my pilots level was full on the CV....GPChris21wen wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:43 am I believe there is a bug to do with the pilots in the Air replacement Unit (VR). If you transfer manually then only the ac are received. In auto with ‘Replacements on’ then both ac and pilots are transferred, I don’t think should be?
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:14 pm
Might be useful to play with those settings. You might want it Manual if your combat/carrier air units have taken aircraft material losses but a lot of your (vastly more experienced) pilots were rescued/salvaged from wrecks (happened to me in a fight one hex from my base on Tulagi. Short on planes but lots of good pilots left.) In this case you want the planes, not the new pilots. Otherwise, do it Auto.Chris21wen wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:43 am I believe there is a bug to do with the pilots in the Air replacement Unit (VR). If you transfer manually then only the ac are received. In auto with ‘Replacements on’ then both ac and pilots are transferred, I don’t think should be?
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:01 am
Another work around might be to send the pilots back to the replacement pool the carriers draw their pilots from. No idea which pool this is though.Chris21wen wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:43 am I believe there is a bug to do with the pilots in the Air replacement Unit (VR). If you transfer manually then only the ac are received. In auto with ‘Replacements on’ then both ac and pilots are transferred, I don’t think should be?
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:00 am
You can't do that at sea. Only two, Fighters (F/FB) or bombers (DB/TB).sven6345789 wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:01 amAnother work around might be to send the pilots back to the replacement pool the carriers draw their pilots from. No idea which pool this is though.Chris21wen wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:43 am I believe there is a bug to do with the pilots in the Air replacement Unit (VR). If you transfer manually then only the ac are received. In auto with ‘Replacements on’ then both ac and pilots are transferred, I don’t think should be?
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:44 am
I’ve been trying to locate this since this thread began. Where is this “get replacement aircraft function”?
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:26 am
Not sure why you can't find it! Here's it is in red with reserves being drawn in blue. It's also in section 7.1 Air Unit Info screen p155 in the new manual.
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Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:58 pm
Oh,that! Well, that’s switched on, of course. I thought you were referring to a switch like the one you use to get extra pilots (which works instantly). Thanks for the info.Chris21wen wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:26 amNot sure why you can't find it! Here's it is in red with reserves being drawn in blue. It's also in section 7.1 Air Unit Info screen p155 in the new manual.
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Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:00 am
If all conditions have been met (e.g. either in range of a VR group or in port with enough supplies, I think there is a minimum port / airbase size as well), then there should appear a "Draw aircraft from pool" button just under the "Upgrade / Do not upgrade" button. However, drawing replacement aircraft from the pool is possible only once every 7 days and up to 12 aircraft max per draw (and of course only up to the air group max size)
Re: Replenishing carrier airgroups
Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:00 am
It's 20K supply same as land based ac. Difference is land based can also get replacements if either their air or command HQ are within air transfer range and HQs base has 20K.LargeSlowTarget wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:00 am If all conditions have been met (e.g. either in range of a VR group or in port with enough supplies, I think there is a minimum port / airbase size as well), then there should appear a "Draw aircraft from pool" button just under the "Upgrade / Do not upgrade" button. However, drawing replacement aircraft from the pool is possible only once every 7 days and up to 12 aircraft max per draw (and of course only up to the air group max size)