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Taranto Event - Ill Conceived Event

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:19 pm
by DarkHorse2
The Taranto Swordfish Raid event is poorly implemented and ill conceived.

The only time it has any implact is the 1st time a player experiences it. After that, the Italians dodge it by not basing Naval in Taranto from Nov 11, 1940 until it fires.

In the game, it should not be limited to Taranto as it could have targeted any number of ports that the Italian navy was routinely based.

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;REMOVE1941
; Taranto Raid
{
#NAME= ALLIED AI: Taranto Raid (50%)
#POPUP= <<TAG_28>>
#IMAGE= taranto.png
#SOUND= taranto.ogg
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 0
#AI= 2
#LEVEL= 0
; Set global variable condition to always trigger (dummy value)
#GV= 1[1,100]
; Set link value to always trigger (dummy value)
#LINK= 0[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 112
#FLAG_ID= 112
#TRIGGER= 50
#SEASON_FLAG= 0
#DATE= 1940/11/11
; Taranto(180,105)
; Min Range, Max Range (1,1)
; Min Str Loss, Max Str Loss (1, 3)
; Min Morale Adj, Max Moral Adj (-50, -75)
#MAP_POSITION= 180,105 [1,1] [1,3] [-50,-75] [1] [0]
; 1st Line - Italy politically aligned with the Axis and not surrendered
#VARIABLE_CONDITION= 59 [1] [100] [0]
; 2nd Line - UK politically aligned with the Allies and not surrendered
#VARIABLE_CONDITION= 112 [2] [100] [0]
;Allied units in Malta
#CONDITION_POSITION= 175,114 [0,0] [1,1] [2] [0]
}

Re: Taranto Event - Ill Conceived Event

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:32 am
by Tanaka
DarkHorse2 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:19 pm The Taranto Swordfish Raid event is poorly implemented and ill conceived.

The only time it has any implact is the 1st time a player experiences it. After that, the Italians dodge it by not basing Naval in Taranto from Nov 11, 1940 until it fires.

In the game, it should not be limited to Taranto as it could have targeted any number of ports that the Italian navy was routinely based.

Code: Select all

;REMOVE1941
; Taranto Raid
{
#NAME= ALLIED AI: Taranto Raid (50%)
#POPUP= <<TAG_28>>
#IMAGE= taranto.png
#SOUND= taranto.ogg
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 0
#AI= 2
#LEVEL= 0
; Set global variable condition to always trigger (dummy value)
#GV= 1[1,100]
; Set link value to always trigger (dummy value)
#LINK= 0[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 112
#FLAG_ID= 112
#TRIGGER= 50
#SEASON_FLAG= 0
#DATE= 1940/11/11
; Taranto(180,105)
; Min Range, Max Range (1,1)
; Min Str Loss, Max Str Loss (1, 3)
; Min Morale Adj, Max Moral Adj (-50, -75)
#MAP_POSITION= 180,105 [1,1] [1,3] [-50,-75] [1] [0]
; 1st Line - Italy politically aligned with the Axis and not surrendered
#VARIABLE_CONDITION= 59 [1] [100] [0]
; 2nd Line - UK politically aligned with the Allies and not surrendered
#VARIABLE_CONDITION= 112 [2] [100] [0]
;Allied units in Malta
#CONDITION_POSITION= 175,114 [0,0] [1,1] [2] [0]
}
Yeah its pretty easily avoidable. It should probably be a random port so you don't know when or where it hits...

Re: Taranto Event - Ill Conceived Event

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:29 am
by DarkHorse2
I do not really care for events that duplicate or immulate normal combat.

Isn't that what the core game is for?

Geopolitical events? Yeah, those need scripted events in order for those to manafest within the game.

Off map events? For example, the Battle of River Plate? OK, I can see a scripted event to handle that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_River_Plate

But on-map combat operations? Should not need scripted events. (the only exception may be when playing against the AI where the AI simply cannot handle a task as complex without some help.)

Actually, not a fan of the Norway / Denmark 1940 events either when playing as the Axis and feel those should be doable using the base game mechanics without requiring any special scripted event to accomplish.

If the Axis are lacking the tech, units or resources to accomplish this manually, then something is broken within the scenario.

Re: Taranto Event - Ill Conceived Event

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:32 pm
by Tanaka
DarkHorse2 wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:29 am I do not really care for events that duplicate or immulate normal combat.

Isn't that what the core game is for?

Geopolitical events? Yeah, those need scripted events in order for those to manafest within the game.

Off map events? For example, the Battle of River Plate? OK, I can see a scripted event to handle that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_River_Plate

But on-map combat operations? Should not need scripted events. (the only exception may be when playing against the AI where the AI simply cannot handle a task as complex without some help.)

Actually, not a fan of the Norway / Denmark 1940 events either when playing as the Axis and feel those should be doable using the base game mechanics without requiring any special scripted event to accomplish.

If the Axis are lacking the tech, units or resources to accomplish this manually, then something is broken within the scenario.
Agree with you. A lot of events like Norway are to help the AI because they cannot really invade Norway like a human player could...