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Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:44 am
by OberGeneral
In my copy of Gary Grigsby's War in the East Orsha has no Railyard!

Re: Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:33 pm
by MaximKI
What version of the game are you seeing this on? Do you have a save you could share with us?

Re: Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:06 pm
by DekeFentle
Version 1.03.11 GC this is post execution of GT1 air phase. No fog of war.
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All above the same.
Mogilev.jpg
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All above the same and factory locations toggled on.
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Orsha no rail.zip
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Re: Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:38 pm
by OberGeneral
MaximKI wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:33 pm What version of the game are you seeing this on? Do you have a save you could share with us?
Version 1.03.11.

Re: Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:49 pm
by OberGeneral
DekeFentle wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:06 pm Version 1.03.11 GC this is post execution of GT1 air phase. No fog of war.

Orsha.jpg

All above the same.

Mogilev.jpg

All above the same and factory locations toggled on.

Factory locations toggled on.jpg

Orsha no rail.zip
Orsha has always had a Level 1 Railyard until this Version.

Re: Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:14 pm
by Denniss
OberGeneral wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:49 pm Orsha has always had a Level 1 Railyard until this Version.
Nope, loaded up older game version and no railyard there. There may have been a depot there that spawned a railyard.

Re: Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:42 pm
by DekeFentle
Denniss wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:14 pm
OberGeneral wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:49 pm Orsha has always had a Level 1 Railyard until this Version.
Nope, loaded up older game version and no railyard there. There may have been a depot there that spawned a railyard.
I concur with Denniss' observations, I went back to old saves (V 1.03) and no railyard. Now the question of should there be? Umm... Yes, a quick Google search certainly seems to indicate this was a "major" rail center.

Version 1.03.11
Introductory Scenario 2 Road to Minsk, Orsha level one railyard and Sov depot present.
Stalingrad to Berlin Campaign, No Orsha railyard and no depot.
Vistula to Berlin Campaign, No Orsha railyard and no depot.
Operation Typhoon 41, Orsha level one railyard and Axis depot present.
Orsha station 1914.jpg
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Re: Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:50 pm
by OberGeneral
MaximKI wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:33 pm What version of the game are you seeing this on? Do you have a save you could share with us?
Save file:
QuickSave.zip
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Re: Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:53 pm
by Joel Billings
I'll move this to the data area. Thanks.

Re: Orsha

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:04 pm
by OberGeneral
Joel Billings wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:53 pm I'll move this to the data area. Thanks.
Thanks Joel.

Re: Orsha

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2026 3:01 pm
by Lurberri
DekeFentle wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:42 pm I concur with Denniss' observations, I went back to old saves (V 1.03) and no railyard. Now the question of should there be? Umm... Yes, a quick Google search certainly seems to indicate this was a "major" rail center.

Version 1.03.11
Introductory Scenario 2 Road to Minsk, Orsha level one railyard and Sov depot present.
Stalingrad to Berlin Campaign, No Orsha railyard and no depot.
Vistula to Berlin Campaign, No Orsha railyard and no depot.
Operation Typhoon 41, Orsha level one railyard and Axis depot present.
In my opinion, Orsha in the Great Campaign must have at least one level 1 railyard (at a minimum). Aerial photographs from 1941 show the existence of an extensive rail network (and it also serves a fairly large junction, which necessitates substantial railway infrastructure). The photographs clearly show the large size of its (several) railway stations.

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