Page 1 of 1

SOE: Caio Duilio

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:12 pm
by DarkHorse2
Same issue as with Italian Battleship Andrea Doria.

It was not in service at the onset of WWII.
Duilio was extensively rebuilt in 1937–1940 at Genoa. Her forecastle deck was extended further aft, until it reached the mainmast. The stern and bow were rebuilt, increasing the length of the ship to 186.9 m (613 ft), and the displacement grew to 28,882 t (28,426 long tons; 31,837 short tons). Her old machinery was replaced with more efficient equipment and her twenty boilers were replaced with eight oil-fired models; the new power plant was rated at 75,000 shp (56,000 kW) and speed increased to 26 kn (48 km/h; 30 mph). The ship's amidships turret was removed and the remaining guns were bored out to 320 mm (13 in). Her secondary battery was completely overhauled; the 152 mm guns were replaced with twelve 135 mm (5.3 in) guns in triple turrets amidships. The anti-aircraft battery was significantly improved, to include ten 90 mm (3.5 in) guns, fifteen 37 mm (1.5 in) 54-cal. guns, and sixteen 20 mm (0.79 in) guns. Later, during World War II, four more 37 mm guns were installed and two of the 20 mm guns were removed. After emerging from the modernization, Duilio's crew numbered 35 officers and 1,450 enlisted men.
Starting on 19 March 1937, she was taken to Genoa where an extensive reconstruction began at the Cantieri del Tirreno shipyard. The work was completed on 15 July 1940, at which point she was recommissioned into the 5th Division of the 1st Squadron, based in Taranto.

Re: SOE: Caio Duilio

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 5:35 pm
by BillRunacre
I'll think about this one too.

Re: SOE: Caio Duilio

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:04 pm
by DarkHorse2
I have been compiling research data on WWII Capital Ships, still a work in progress, but fairly complete regarding Italy as follows.

Maybe it would be of use to you? (attached below)

The document is in a markdown format and so you will need to change the name from CapitalShips.md.txt -> CapitalShips.md and open in a markdown viewer.
CapitalShips_MarkDown.jpg
CapitalShips_MarkDown.jpg (283.3 KiB) Viewed 246 times

Regarding "Dreadnought(WWI)", in a scenario I am working on, I have reintroduced the Dreadnought (with adjusted values) as a number of capital ships were carry overs from the WWI era. The USS Texas would be a prime example.

These functioned perfectly well as gun platforms for the use of supporting coastal ground operations - yet could not really stand up to a head-to-head confrontation with a modern WWII Battleship.

Some of these included the recently refitted Italian WW 1 era Dreadnoughts of:
  • Conte di Cavour
  • Giulio Cesare
  • Duilio
  • Andrea Doria
Even after the extensive "modernization" of these Italian WW1 Dreadnoughts, they simply could not compete with the British Battleships. Additionally, they failed to incorporate modern sonar or radar technologies, typically contained no seaplanes, had little improvement to their armor and had questionable torpedo (below deck armor) defenses.
Though the ships were improved, they still were not an equal match for the Queen Elizabeth-class battleships and the Renown-class battlecruisers, both of which carried larger guns and heavier armour.

Re: SOE: Caio Duilio

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:24 pm
by DarkHorse2
Based on ongoing research, the Italian 1939/09 production queue would look like the following:
SC_ItalianProductionQueue_1939.jpg
SC_ItalianProductionQueue_1939.jpg (72.1 KiB) Viewed 244 times
Regarding the name "Caio Duilio", from what I understand, that was more of a nickname.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_battleship_Duilio

FYI - I still need to update the strengths of the Italian Dreadnought(WWI) ships in the queue as there were also a number of British WWI era carry-overs as well at the onset of WWII. Yet the Italian Dreadnoughts were still < the British even after all of their most recent refits.