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All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:30 pm
by thedoctorking
Here's another issue with the "cannot be identified" error. I have the all-forward tech, and yet when I try to design a BB using that tech, it won't let me do it unless I slow the ship down to 22 knots, and then it tells me it is a B. Again, can't do a save file because the game won't let me save the design.
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Re: All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:34 am
by WLRoo
Yep, in this case it definitely works with two quad turrets, and I think it works with one quad and a triple.

It also works if you add a C turret - can't swear to the exact cut-off point after that.

But 2 triple turrets? The game wants to classify as a B.

Re: All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:34 pm
by MaximKI
Thanks, we'll look into this.

Do you mind uploading a save from before you design the ship and let us know steps to reproduce?

Re: All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:43 pm
by thedoctorking
Sure, here you go.

To reproduce: Auto-design a BB, and then modify as shown in the image.
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To confirm, it works with quad turrets but not triples. But since I want to have 16" belt on a ship with 16" guns, I can't afford the weight for quad turrets.

Re: All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:46 pm
by thedoctorking
I did make one that had a single turret aft, but I think that is faintly ridiculous. I don't know of any BB that had single turrets.

Re: All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 4:26 pm
by thedoctorking
The original auto-design had a turret in C position, which I stripped off in favor of more armor.

In a battle last night BTW, the one with the single aft turret blew the dickens out of some Italian BBs. So the single rear turret is a reasonable design, just looks very strange.
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Re: All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:52 pm
by WLRoo
Do you not lose the tonnage bonus by taking an X or Y turret - even with just 1 gun?

Re: All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:36 pm
by thedoctorking
Yes, you can't get the bonus if you have any rear turrets. A pity.

Re: All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:56 am
by Pratapon51
Since the BB requires either 8 guns (so 2 quads) or 3 turrets, it does mean designs like that are 'legal' but 2 Triples AB must be fast enough to qualify as BC or else is disallowed. A BB with 3 20" guns in single turrets is also legal...

Re: All Forward Turret Configuration Doesn't Work

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:29 pm
by thedoctorking
So I guess the answer is it's WAD, but the design is pretty constraining and IMHO rather silly.