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Bella wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:24 pm Playing as Allied against AI, I’m noticing that some of my subs have become far less effective/productive, I.e. sinking way less ships and missing ships often when attacking. It’s July ‘42. They have plenty of torpedoes. I wondered if there was a fatigue factor built in I haven’t noticed before, as some of them have been at sea for a few months. But checking the info screen for each sub, I don’t see a number for fatigue.

Is this a thing?

Bella wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:24 pm Is this a thing?

btd64 wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:58 pm Don't forget the high dud rate early in the game....GP

Chris21wen wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:29 pm

Bella wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:24 pm Playing as Allied against AI, I’m noticing that some of my subs have become far less effective/productive, I.e. sinking way less ships and missing ships often when attacking. It’s July ‘42. They have plenty of torpedoes. I wondered if there was a fatigue factor built in I haven’t noticed before, as some of them have been at sea for a few months. But checking the info screen for each sub, I don’t see a number for fatigue.

Is this a thing?

No. There are number of possible reasons which include, no targets, luck, leader, weather etc etc. You may not be aware but if a sub is known to be in the area the AI will route around it if that is possible.

Bella wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:55 pm

Chris21wen wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:29 pm

Bella wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:24 pm Playing as Allied against AI, I’m noticing that some of my subs have become far less effective/productive, I.e. sinking way less ships and missing ships often when attacking. It’s July ‘42. They have plenty of torpedoes. I wondered if there was a fatigue factor built in I haven’t noticed before, as some of them have been at sea for a few months. But checking the info screen for each sub, I don’t see a number for fatigue.

Is this a thing?

No. There are number of possible reasons which include, no targets, luck, leader, weather etc etc. You may not be aware but if a sub is known to be in the area the AI will route around it if that is possible.

Yup, I know about the sub being spotted thing, keep shifting them around if they are detected/spotted. Might just be a cold spell, probability speaking. Only been three turns, but maddening when attack after attack yields nothing.

RangerJoe wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:27 am

Bella wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:55 pm

Chris21wen wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:29 pm

No. There are number of possible reasons which include, no targets, luck, leader, weather etc etc. You may not be aware but if a sub is known to be in the area the AI will route around it if that is possible.

Yup, I know about the sub being spotted thing, keep shifting them around if they are detected/spotted. Might just be a cold spell, probability speaking. Only been three turns, but maddening when attack after attack yields nothing.

What is the dud rate for the Mark 14 torpedoes at this time? How good are your submarine captains?

Sardaukar wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:19 am To add (and to pad my post count on out way to 1 million posts on forum), I always try to change sub skippers yo best available.

- best naval skill with one caveat

- don't put high aggression skippers into low experience subs (I think in my current game O'Kane (aggr. 90) has lost at least one sub, maybe 2, but he still survived to command next...).

- as above, aggressiveness 50-60 is ok, often even as low as 35, since they tend to live longer...which is good for skill advancement of sub crew (day/night). 60+ crew skills is good, 70+ very good, 80 absolute elite).

Bella wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:31 pm

Sardaukar wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:19 am To add (and to pad my post count on out way to 1 million posts on forum), I always try to change sub skippers yo best available.

- best naval skill with one caveat

- don't put high aggression skippers into low experience subs (I think in my current game O'Kane (aggr. 90) has lost at least one sub, maybe 2, but he still survived to command next...).

- as above, aggressiveness 50-60 is ok, often even as low as 35, since they tend to live longer...which is good for skill advancement of sub crew (day/night). 60+ crew skills is good, 70+ very good, 80 absolute elite).

Interesting. I’ll look into that.

Sardaukar wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:34 pm

Bella wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:31 pm

Sardaukar wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:19 am To add (and to pad my post count on out way to 1 million posts on forum), I always try to change sub skippers yo best available.

- best naval skill with one caveat

- don't put high aggression skippers into low experience subs (I think in my current game O'Kane (aggr. 90) has lost at least one sub, maybe 2, but he still survived to command next...).

- as above, aggressiveness 50-60 is ok, often even as low as 35, since they tend to live longer...which is good for skill advancement of sub crew (day/night). 60+ crew skills is good, 70+ very good, 80 absolute elite).

Interesting. I’ll look into that.

If they are super-aggressive (80+) as some are, they tend to make unwise decisions like attack more on surface etc. and often pay the price when crew is just 55/55.

Sardaukar wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:34 pm

Bella wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:31 pm

Sardaukar wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:19 am To add (and to pad my post count on out way to 1 million posts on forum), I always try to change sub skippers yo best available.

- best naval skill with one caveat

- don't put high aggression skippers into low experience subs (I think in my current game O'Kane (aggr. 90) has lost at least one sub, maybe 2, but he still survived to command next...).

- as above, aggressiveness 50-60 is ok, often even as low as 35, since they tend to live longer...which is good for skill advancement of sub crew (day/night). 60+ crew skills is good, 70+ very good, 80 absolute elite).

Interesting. I’ll look into that.

If they are super-aggressive (80+) as some are, they tend to make unwise decisions like attack more on surface etc. and often pay the price when crew is just 55/55.

GivingUpTheGhost wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 2:48 pm

Sardaukar wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:34 pm

Bella wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:31 pm

Interesting. I’ll look into that.

If they are super-aggressive (80+) as some are, they tend to make unwise decisions like attack more on surface etc. and often pay the price when crew is just 55/55.

I've never really thought about this before. I've always selected for aggression. Good to know