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SOE - seems to be giving Allies a buttload of destroyers

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:20 pm
by DarkHorse2
hmmm....

UK begins 1939 with 4 Destroyers.
There are 2 Destroyers in the Production Queue.
Plus 25 Destroyers from events as listed below.
Plus UK's discounted production costs for Destroyers (155 vs 175).

And then there are events to give UK 2 Maritime Bombers, on top of the other 5 they can build (2 UK, 1 Canada, 2 USA)...
for comparison the Axis are allowed a total of 2 (1 Germany, 1 Italy)

The War in the Atlantic appears to have been decided before it even starts....

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Strategic Command WWII War in Europe\Campaigns\_1939 Storm over Europe\Scripts\Events\unit.txt (25 hits)
	Line   398: #UNIT= 40 [8] [0] [Castleton]
	Line   427: #UNIT= 40 [6] [0] [Montgomery]
	Line   456: #UNIT= 40 [6] [0] [Lancaster]
	Line   485: #UNIT= 40 [6] [0] [Columbia]
	Line   514: #UNIT= 40 [8] [0] [Annapolis]
	Line  4372: #UNIT= 40 [5] [0] [ORP Blyskawica]
	Line  4923: #UNIT= 40 [10] [2] []
	Line  4952: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] [Somers]
	Line  5048: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] [Wainwright]
	Line  5049: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] [Leary]
	Line  6055: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] []
	Line  6083: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] []
	Line  6524: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0.5] []
	Line  6525: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0.5] []
	Line  6952: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] []
	Line  6953: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] []
	Line  6981: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] []
	Line  6982: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] []
	Line  7012: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] [Pringle]
	Line  7013: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] [Kane]
	Line  7046: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] [Balch]
	Line  7323: #UNIT= 40 [10] [1] [Taylor]
	Line  8344: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] []
	Line  9288: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] []
	Line  9289: #UNIT= 40 [10] [0] []

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Re: SOE - seems to be giving Allies a buttload of destroyers

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:55 pm
by DarkHorse2
The following are from the Destroyers for Bases deal with the US:

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#UNIT= 40 [8] [0] [Castleton]
#UNIT= 40 [6] [0] [Montgomery]
#UNIT= 40 [6] [0] [Lancaster]
#UNIT= 40 [6] [0] [Columbia]
#UNIT= 40 [8] [0] [Annapolis]
I believe these were for 50 older destroyers. Which makes me believe that each SOE destroyer unit is modeled to be roughly eqalivalent to 10 destroyers. Purely a guess at this point....

This seems to hold up for Germany as they had roughly 20 Destroyers at the onset and have 2 Destroyer units.

But does not scale correctly to UKs starting destroyers as they had 70 "modern" destroyers at the onset, but not entirely sure where they were deployed (at the moment).

Nor Italy, which had over 50 Destroyers at the onset, but only 2 Destroyer units in game.

Not entirely sure what the scaling factor used was... 10:1? 15:1? 20:1? ...are some plausible guesses....

Re: SOE - seems to be giving Allies a buttload of destroyers

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:20 am
by BillRunacre
Approximately 10, but it's only a rough guide.