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Bella wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:00 pm Getting a little frustrated with the almost complete lack of replacements for fighters on carriers. Sitting in Noumea for days and days doing minor repairs, supplies at 250K+, yet no budging at all. VF squadrons sitting at 5 Wildcats out of max 27, and 6 out of max 36. Meanwhile, new Marine fighter squadrons filled with Wildcats are generating on the West Coast and Pearl. I have every Marine fighter squadron in existence on ‘no replacements’.

What am I missing? Am I obliged to having to use Marine fighter squadrons on my carriers for the rest of this year (it’s August 13, 1942)

btd64 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:50 am What is the Airfield size at Noumea? If it is below 7 you won't get replacements. What is in your pool for F4F-4's? Are the ships docked? Is the port big enough to dock the CV's? Bella, These are some of the requirements and questions that you need to answer. Look forward to your answers....GP

Chris21wen wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:38 am

btd64 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:50 am What is the Airfield size at Noumea? If it is below 7 you won't get replacements. What is in your pool for F4F-4's? Are the ships docked? Is the port big enough to dock the CV's? Bella, These are some of the requirements and questions that you need to answer. Look forward to your answers....GP

This is incorrect. Carrier based aircraft can get replacements if the base they are at has an AF >=1 and >20K supply + the cost of the aircraft. It does not matter if the cv is dock, undocked or disbanded. See here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 3&t=405854

btd64 wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:40 am

Chris21wen wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:38 am

btd64 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:50 am What is the Airfield size at Noumea? If it is below 7 you won't get replacements. What is in your pool for F4F-4's? Are the ships docked? Is the port big enough to dock the CV's? Bella, These are some of the requirements and questions that you need to answer. Look forward to your answers....GP

This is incorrect. Carrier based aircraft can get replacements if the base they are at has an AF >=1 and >20K supply + the cost of the aircraft. It does not matter if the cv is dock, undocked or disbanded. See here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 3&t=405854

OK, I was thinking of VMF squadrons that are not CV trained. I've run into this problem before....GP

Chris21wen wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:04 am

btd64 wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:40 am

Chris21wen wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:38 am

This is incorrect. Carrier based aircraft can get replacements if the base they are at has an AF >=1 and >20K supply + the cost of the aircraft. It does not matter if the cv is dock, undocked or disbanded. See here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 3&t=405854

OK, I was thinking of VMF squadrons that are not CV trained. I've run into this problem before....GP

They do not have to be carrier trained to receive carrier based replacement, just on a carrier. Once y0u take any aircraft off a carrier they become land based.

Platoonist wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:09 pm When a carrier is undergoing a lengthy upgrade in a shipyard I'll often shore base it's air groups in other locations to do additional fighter cover or ASW/Search.

BBfanboy wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:14 pm Not quite right Bella - removing the Carrier's air group can be a very good move. If you look at the aircraft fatigue/damage rate on the ship and how fast it repairs if the aircraft are on the ship in port, it is very slow. But if you transfer the aircraft to a land airfield with good Air Support, they will repair way faster. If the airbase does not have enough Air Support to handle the whole air group, send a squadron or two at a time.

You can fly them off and on the carrier, but I find there is a chance of losing aircraft and pilots in that operation. I dock the carrier for loading and unloading the aircraft and never lose any. If the carrier is under repair it is considered docked for aircraft transfer purposes.

Bella wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:22 pm I think it’s a glitch. The algorithm forgot they were Saratoga’s and just made them Marines. It’s too uncanny a coincidence. I’ve used the search tools to find Saratoga’s missing squadrons and they no just longer exist. I asked for advice and been told that since I have not posted a screenshot of …..whatever, I’m un-helpable.

Bella wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:22 pm

Platoonist wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:09 pm When a carrier is undergoing a lengthy upgrade in a shipyard I'll often shore base it's air groups in other locations to do additional fighter cover or ASW/Search.

That’s exactly my point! Thank you! That’s what SHOULD happen. I did that, transferred three of my air groups from Saratoga at Noumea (while docked) to keep training while Saratoga went to LA for repairs, and then the air groups vanished. Noumea is a level 8 airfield now, with only four other squadrons there, one of them a ASW PBY squadron. 250,000+ supply. So no problems with space or supply.

There are now no extent Saratoga squadrons in existence except the one I left on board the carrier for the trip home, the torpedo squadron doing ASW, 15 Avengers. Two turns after I did that, I’m checking air groups at Noumea, trying to do everything every turn, you know, not miss anything, and there they are at Noumea: a Marine fighter squadron, and two Marine SBD squadrons, one set to naval search, the other to naval attack. Were not there before. No notice at end of turns of them arriving at Noumea. Both SBD squadrons are at 9 operational aircraft and no damaged or reserve, exactly half the number both Saratoga squadrons had before the transfer. The fighter squadron is at 5 operational a/c, what Saratoga’s VF3 had before I transferred them.

I think it’s a glitch. The algorithm forgot they were Saratoga’s and just made them Marines. It’s too uncanny a coincidence. I’ve used the search tools to find Saratoga’s missing squadrons and they no just longer exist. I asked for advice and been told that since I have not posted a screenshot of …..whatever, I’m un-helpable.

By the way, many thanks to Platoonist for his help on this; he’s been a patient and informative guide. Also thanks to others trying to help me suss this out. I’m playing the Grand Campaign right out of the box, the physical copy I bought from Matrix like, 5 years ago. I realize there are updates on it and next game I play will be the updated version. But right now I just want to know if this has happened to anyone else, and is there a fix. Do I have to just plug in and re-stock Saratoga?

Bella wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:22 pm

Platoonist wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:09 pm When a carrier is undergoing a lengthy upgrade in a shipyard I'll often shore base it's air groups in other locations to do additional fighter cover or ASW/Search.

I think it’s a glitch. The algorithm forgot they were Saratoga’s and just made them Marines. It’s too uncanny a coincidence. I’ve used the search tools to find Saratoga’s missing squadrons and they no just longer exist. I asked for advice and been told that since I have not posted a screenshot of …..whatever, I’m un-helpable.

BBfanboy wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:36 am Just a stab in the dark, but sometimes when you have used the ALL AIRCRAFT buttons (land based and ship based) at the top of the screen and filtered the list by turning off display of certain types, if you do not turn those types back on they don't display in game either.