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Nazcatraz wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:14 pm I’m about to try my first Allies amphibious landing in the game, and I’ve been reading up on how abstracted these landings seem to be compared to historical accounts. In real WWII Pacific landings, infantry would load into landing craft like LCVPs (the “Higgins boats”) to hit the beach, but in the game, it looks like you can land troops straight from ships like APs or LSDs, with no mention of LCVPs initially.

From what I understand, LCVPs do show up later in the game, but for now, it seems like they’re just assumed to be part of the process when using APs for amphibious assaults. I wonder if that’s just a simplification for gameplay, since otherwise, you'd be handling a ton of individual landing craft.

Also, are LVT-4 Amtracs represented in the game? Historically, these bad boys were crucial in the Pacific for getting troops ashore under fire. It would be awesome to see them in the game.

RangerJoe wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:40 pm

Nazcatraz wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:14 pm I’m about to try my first Allies amphibious landing in the game, and I’ve been reading up on how abstracted these landings seem to be compared to historical accounts. In real WWII Pacific landings, infantry would load into landing craft like LCVPs (the “Higgins boats”) to hit the beach, but in the game, it looks like you can land troops straight from ships like APs or LSDs, with no mention of LCVPs initially.

From what I understand, LCVPs do show up later in the game, but for now, it seems like they’re just assumed to be part of the process when using APs for amphibious assaults. I wonder if that’s just a simplification for gameplay, since otherwise, you'd be handling a ton of individual landing craft.

Also, are LVT-4 Amtracs represented in the game? Historically, these bad boys were crucial in the Pacific for getting troops ashore under fire. It would be awesome to see them in the game.

Yes, the "Higgins" boats and other landing craft/boats are included in the transports.

Look up your "Amphibious Tractors" in your game, you have units of them coming in later.

Nazcatraz wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:47 pm

RangerJoe wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:40 pm

Nazcatraz wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:14 pm I’m about to try my first Allies amphibious landing in the game, and I’ve been reading up on how abstracted these landings seem to be compared to historical accounts. In real WWII Pacific landings, infantry would load into landing craft like LCVPs (the “Higgins boats”) to hit the beach, but in the game, it looks like you can land troops straight from ships like APs or LSDs, with no mention of LCVPs initially.

From what I understand, LCVPs do show up later in the game, but for now, it seems like they’re just assumed to be part of the process when using APs for amphibious assaults. I wonder if that’s just a simplification for gameplay, since otherwise, you'd be handling a ton of individual landing craft.

Also, are LVT-4 Amtracs represented in the game? Historically, these bad boys were crucial in the Pacific for getting troops ashore under fire. It would be awesome to see them in the game.

Yes, the "Higgins" boats and other landing craft/boats are included in the transports.

Look up your "Amphibious Tractors" in your game, you have units of them coming in later.

By included in the transports, you mean in an abstracted way right? Because I went through many AP ships/Transport TF details without seeing any mention of any LCVPs. I also found out that there are no LCVPs visible in the game at all even in the later dates.

I also did not see any LVT-4 in the game. There are VT(A)1 in AFV divisions/regiments later in the war but no mention of any LVT-4 in either the LCU or ships.

I'm fine with them being abstracted. But if there is ever a WITP sequel, I would love to have LCVPs and the LVT-4 included in the game.

RangerJoe wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:57 pm

Nazcatraz wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:47 pm

RangerJoe wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:40 pm

Yes, the "Higgins" boats and other landing craft/boats are included in the transports.

Look up your "Amphibious Tractors" in your game, you have units of them coming in later.

By included in the transports, you mean in an abstracted way right? Because I went through many AP ships/Transport TF details without seeing any mention of any LCVPs. I also found out that there are no LCVPs visible in the game at all even in the later dates.

I also did not see any LVT-4 in the game. There are VT(A)1 in AFV divisions/regiments later in the war but no mention of any LVT-4 in either the LCU or ships.

I'm fine with them being abstracted. But if there is ever a WITP sequel, I would love to have LCVPs and the LVT-4 included in the game.

I suggest that you open your game, go to the database for ships, select Allied ships, if they are not sorted alphabetically then do so, then look for the ship/boat that you want.

Then go to the database for aircraft, vehicle, and troops, select vehicles, if they are not sorted alphabetically then do so, then look for the vehicle that you want.

It is easier for you to do so than for me to do so.

Nazcatraz wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:48 am
I did look through the Allies ship database but did not find any mention of a single LCVP or LVT-4.

Nazcatraz wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:32 am Okay so the LCVP are somewhat represented in the game. That's good to know thanks. But what about the LVT-4?

RangerJoe wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:36 am

Nazcatraz wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:32 am Okay so the LCVP are somewhat represented in the game. That's good to know thanks. But what about the LVT-4?

Well, when I looked at my games database . . .

Nazcatraz wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:51 am

RangerJoe wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:36 am

Nazcatraz wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:32 am Okay so the LCVP are somewhat represented in the game. That's good to know thanks. But what about the LVT-4?

Well, when I looked at my games database . . .

ah yeah I forgot there's a database for LCU units too lol, I was looking in the ships one. But even though the LVT-4 is in the database, I cannot find it in any reinforcements at all. All the amphibious reinforcements from the Army & Marines all have LVT(A)1 with them instead. Just some obscure curiosity. Not that it matters anyway. I just love looking at the LCVP/LVT-4 landing troops amphibiously in movies.

If there is a sequel on the way, I would love to have the ability to micro LCVP and LVT-4, loading troops from APs into them to land them into the beaches like IRL. Please Gary & Joel if you are reading this pleeeease.

Nazcatraz wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:51 am But even though the LVT-4 is in the database, I cannot find it in any reinforcements at all. All the amphibious reinforcements from the Army & Marines all have LVT(A)1 with them instead.

HansBolter wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:29 am IIRC Pool craft do not appear in the Ship Reinforcements listing.

Beyond that, I couldn't speak to what is included in the base game any longer, as I have been playing Babes mods for some time now.

LargeSlowTarget wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:49 am

Nazcatraz wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:51 am But even though the LVT-4 is in the database, I cannot find it in any reinforcements at all. All the amphibious reinforcements from the Army & Marines all have LVT(A)1 with them instead.

Device 1187 LVT(A)1 upgrades to device 1188 LVT(A)4 starting 12/43.

Platoonist wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:35 am To get some LCVP represented on the map like other ships it seems like you have to wait unit the landing craft pool runs low on higher capacity LC. Can't say I ever used them much due to their limited range and load.


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Nazcatraz wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:50 pm I hope this would be addressed in the sequel and the dev would let us load landing crafts along with troops into ships like APs.