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Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:54 am
by scotten_usa
Ok this time I'm not posting something where
I am wrong.
I thought I saw this posted but can't find it...
If I pick "Center" starting location with a new galaxy, the game always puts me on the Edge. My in-expert guess says that selection is broken because it defaults to Random every time and (I think) is not picking up my input. I tried this 5 times in a row and got the same result.
Thanks.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:51 pm
by hurkle
I dont think I have ever had a centre start in any galaxy type despite always picking centre.
The game needs to place the player first then the cpu empires.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:43 pm
by scotten_usa
hurkle wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:51 pm
I dont think I have ever had a centre start in any galaxy type despite always picking centre.
The game needs to place the player first then the cpu empires.
I started a few new game with Classic galaxy shape / deep core start and it did the right thing each time.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:55 am
by hurkle
One of the setup variables is breaking 'player start in centre' coding.
Did ten test starts on random map types and am close to the edge of map on all ten.
I normally have 20 opponents in biggest 2000 system maps with other empires having the biggest starting empire size and have extreme in hostile empire closeness to me. Checked in the editor and there are plenty of spaces in the centre to place player who has a single planet start.
Tested with second biggest other empire starts and even more space for the game to fail to put me in the centre...
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:15 pm
by MaximKI
This is a known issue that we're investigating.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:27 pm
by fruitgnome
Works now better but instead now get the position of one another empire "near" in setup get ignored. I only added two empires to "near" as I did in so many games before and it worked all the time till shakturi release. Since shakturi release I did not add empires by myself in setup till now.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:29 am
by fruitgnome
Not fixed yet for centre. Start often although centre is set at the edge. - latest beta
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:17 am
by fruitgnome
Not fixed yet in big update - Tactics Update

Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:23 am
by fruitgnome
Do you not have this bug?
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 4:35 am
by hurkle
This was fixed for me before the tactics update broke it again.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 11:57 pm
by scotten_usa
hurkle wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 4:35 am
This was fixed for me before the tactics update broke it again.
Oops.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:40 pm
by fruitgnome
Position center still not fixed in 1.3.1.1.

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Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:45 pm
by ChrisGb
fruitgnome wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:40 pm
Position center still not fixed in 1.3.1.1.
oh, well...and I had hopes

for next patch
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:44 pm
by MaximKI
fruitgnome wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:40 pm
Position center still not fixed in 1.3.1.1.
Screenshot 2025-07-13 194111.png
Do you happen to have a save of this game where you started, not where you expected? It's possible that the fix we put in place may not have handled all cases, and we'd like to see if there's a pattern that makes the game not obey your location start settings.
What were your exact game settings?
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:49 am
by fruitgnome
The savegame from the screenshot.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:01 pm
by fruitgnome
After I started the game four times again I got the expected position (all same settings, nothing changed):

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Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:21 pm
by MaximKI
Thanks, we'll investigate.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2025 8:25 pm
by fruitgnome
Not fixed yet, when will come next beta patch? There were a long time no patches anymore.
Re: Starting location in setup is broken for Irregular galaxies
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:38 pm
by MaximKI
We're hoping to start public betas up again soon.