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Leaders with 0 egoism do not receive relationship points from stratagems modified by egoism as official gift or bonus.
Probably a multiplication by 0.
Save attached, see decision archive turn 69 (Sam Meteormore and Wilbur Ladrium)

Annoying agreed. but working as intended. They really dont care at all about these rewards.

Here we see an incongruity: the higher the egoism, the less the relationship is impacted by the increase in salary, while it is the opposite with the bonus!

mmm...

Making changes for next version, i agree..

next version:
-Salary impact on Natural Relation Point is now optimal at Leader Egoism=50 and slacks of going towards 0 or 100. In the first case because the leader is altruistic and doesnt value rewards very high, in the other case because it wants more and more credits as egoism creeps higher. (note that the stratagem gifts do work well on high egoism because the public ceremonial nature (PP expenditure) of these gifts does scratch their itch) *

best,
Vic

Thank you!
For a few patches now, egoism has been decreasing as the turns progress, but it varies depending on the leaders.
What are the parameters that reduce egoism over time?

Why am I asking this question?
Because with your solution of reducing the impact of salary if we deviate by 50 more or less, the natural relationship will automatically decrease over the turns since the egoism of the leaders decreases. And we will have more and more difficulty in correcting this natural relation whether with salary or with bonuses and no longer be able to improve it with an egoism of 0.
In the attached save, I have 5 leaders out of 20 (25% and increasing) who are at 0 egoism and I have no other way to increase their relationship apart from salary.
In the future patch, this last solution will not even exist anymore.

I agree and i will put a cap on that descend (due to leaders with low ambition and parliament regime feat). it cannot go lower than ambition in the next version. this cap was already present for politburo where egoism would go up if high ambition but could not go beyond the value of ambition.

i am very happy with this kind of feedback!

best wishes,
Vic

Vic wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:52 pm i am very happy with this kind of feedback!

And I'm very happy with this kind of response!