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As asked by Dimitris (DEV) on Steam, here's my problem

Hi,
So far I've been able to make custom missions and airdrop paratroopers, even with AI preplanned mission, paused missions enabled via events, pre-loaded aircrafts or enable troops to self transfer.
But since a few days, I can't drop troops anymore. Using editor, I see that my planes load and take off, and if I'll look upon their cargo I see the intended troops, but they simply fly over the drop zone and keep paratroopers aboard. Even if I select planes and try manual unload order, it does nothing. They fly back to launch base and the units stand near the airport (not in the airport cargo where they were initially).
Of course, I loaded and replayed the cargo tutorial (in Sicilia) it works fine as intended...
I even did a new scenario from scratch (TEST in attachment)to see if it has something to do with too much test in the previous one which has could break some mechanics, but no.
I'm using the cold war database. In my first tries the V508 one had some success, but since I updated on V509 nothing works. But perharps it has nothing to do.
The facility/mobile personnel units I used for where generic platoon (even manually modified), stock french paratroopers...mortar section, 12.7mg section, etc... At first all tested where dropping
EDIT :
To be sure this morning I've ran a serie of four tests, using same units (air & land) with DB3000 and CWDB. For each DB I made two tests : one single drop, and two simultaneous drops on two different DZ. These ones work fine But for the first uploaded file (TEST) even if I changed units it still the same result : aircrafts not dropping cargo.
I guess something is broken in the saved game file, as it originally was built in CWDB V508, and upgraded with the menu "upgrade to recent DB" (which has erased everything in the scenario indeed)... ?

After these tests I wanted to rebuild from scratch my scenario, and the airdrops don't work. Before setting missions I have set multi sides. AI side was to drop, doesn't work. Tried airdrop to player side, same location as my 4 multi test, same units, doesn't work !

latest uploaded : if you select inflight plane and manually select the cargo to unload it it says "no unit allowad to cargo" even if there's one (paratrooper) loaded.

Hi Elgobo, I've tested your saves and I think I've found the problem. The French paratroopers in the CWDB seem to have to many weapon mountsand can't be dropped from an aircraft. This is something that will have to be fixed DB side, however I haven't had trouble dropping similar cargo that doesn't have multiple weapons like the one you've been using. Are there other units that you've noticed that can't be dropped that should be able to? Thanks

Hi,

I didn't listed them precisely, as I searched precise units for my historical scenario. I tried variant of french foreign legion, generic nato platoon. I edited part/most of them to add/remove weapon mounts, like 12.7 or 81mm mortar.

I noticed too that the 12.7mm support HMG platoon (even reduced to a section of two HMG like I did) weren't cargoable. But at last the game told me that they weren't allowed in the cargo box transfer, conrary to other land units platoon.

I guess it's a global issue, and if you look at my other post about boeing cargo problem, I guess there are some issues in the database about weight, volume, etc...

I will make some tests about what you said, loading a test that doesn't work and try to change units.

Apparently this is an issue with certain facilities not being marked "para-drop capable" in the DB and not specifically a mount issue. We're looking into it, thanks

Hi Raptor,

Thank for the reply. So there's an hidden tag "paradrop able" (based on what ?). I suppose that regardless if the existing units are correctly set, the tag won't "update" by itself if we take a para drop able vanilla unit and customize it with weapon change or anything that cancel the paradrop ability.

Ultimately it would be safe to have a game check for current ability at the moment we move the modified unit in the cargo airbase, to transfer it after in suited airplanes. That would prevent strange behaviors like units loaded into airplanes, flying over the drop zone and returning to the base with the loaded units. And the players will be aware of the customization limits.

Regards