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A it says. I have been happily playing TOAW IV on my new (NUC) Computer for weeks but, suddenly, the red movement arrows (i.e. showing the movement cost per hex and route) have disappeared. This is on both the Steam version AND a newly re-downloaded Matrix version.

I have completely deleted the Steam game twice and rebooted. Makes no difference.

The weird thing is that on my old Desktop with EXACTLY the same game settings the arrows are still there in both the Steam and stab alone Matrix versions.

Any ideas?

Did you muck about in this area:

Nah.

These are stock standard installs with nothing changed (I noticed that menu option and it was exactly as shown when I checked it ... ).

And it applies to one installed as a Steam game and another installed from a brand new download from Matrix (again, with no changes from stock) ... and THIS was the first time I had installed the non-Steam version to the NUC.

Phil

Double check that h_Movement_arrows.png, Movement_arrows.png, and s_movement_arrows.png are in your Graphics folder.

In the Matrix download version ...

s_movement_arrows png 51kb
Movement_arrows png 75kb
h_Movement_arrows png 118kb

In the Steam version ...

s_movement_arrows png 51kb
Movement_arrows png 75kb
h_Movement_arrows png 118kb

All present.

Phil McGregor

For what its worth

NUC Specs
Device name NUC2024
Processor 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1360P 2.20 GHz
Installed RAM 64.0 GB (61.6 GB usable)
Device ID 88598F08-1BFE-4AD4-92A9-65F7F8D73834
Product ID 00330-73776-00435-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

Windows
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 24H2
Installed on ‎22/‎11/‎2024
OS build 26100.2605
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.36.0

The machine happily runs GG's WITE (which I have been playing instead of FITE 2), WITW, all the Decisive Campaigns games, Warplan and Warplan Pacific and many other Matrix (and non Matrix) games with no problems ... and ran this title happily until two days ago ...

Phil McGregor

Does the unit move when the target hex is clicked on - regardless of no arrows? Do you get the movement popup if there are two or more units in the start hex?

aspqrz02 wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:05 am I have been happily playing TOAW IV on my new (NUC) Computer for weeks but, suddenly, the red movement arrows (i.e. showing the movement cost per hex and route) have disappeared.
Any ideas?

Even if the arrows do not show, do the movement cost numbers still appear? I’ve found that the arrows tend to obscure units and terrain, preferring to just see the numbers. Obviously, this doesn’t solve the problem, but if the movement numbers are still visible it gives you an alternative.

Regards

Yes, the unit(s) move ... and, yes, I get asked if I want to do a group move if more than two are in a hex.

No, the Movement Costs/Numbers do not appear either.

So I am effectively moving blind with no idea of the movement costs or even how far I can move.

Phil McGregor

aspqrz02 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:15 am In the Matrix download version ...

s_movement_arrows png 51kb
Movement_arrows png 75kb
h_Movement_arrows png 118kb

In the Steam version ...

s_movement_arrows png 51kb
Movement_arrows png 75kb
h_Movement_arrows png 118kb

All present.

Phil McGregor

What is the path to them - compared to the path to the .exe?

This has to be a path issue.

STEAM Version
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\The Operational Art of War IV\Opart 4.exe"
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\The Operational Art of War IV

Matrix/PC Download Version
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Matrix Games\The Operational Art of War IV\autorun.exe"
C:\Program Files (x86)\Matrix Games\The Operational Art of War IV

(NB: Tried to run the PC/Matrix version from Opart 4 exe ... made no difference).

Phil McGregor

aspqrz02 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:54 am STEAM Version
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\The Operational Art of War IV\Opart 4.exe"
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\The Operational Art of War IV

Matrix/PC Download Version
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Matrix Games\The Operational Art of War IV\autorun.exe"
C:\Program Files (x86)\Matrix Games\The Operational Art of War IV

(NB: Tried to run the PC/Matrix version from Opart 4 exe ... made no difference).

Phil McGregor

Are you running a desktop shortcut to that Opart 4.exe? If so, try double-clicking on that file directly from the File Explorer.

Tried it both ways from Desktop Icon and from File Explorer ... for BOTH the Matrix download/PC and Steam versions.

Made no difference.

Phil McGregor

Try copying the arrow and number graphics into the Graphics Override folder.

Have you tried all three zoom levels?

From 2d Huge to 2d Ultra Tiny and both levels of 3d.

Nothing changes.

Phil McGregor

aspqrz02 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:44 am From 2d Huge to 2d Ultra Tiny and both levels of 3d.

Nothing changes.

Phil McGregor

Try running the program in a lower Windows version:

Tried it. Made no difference.

Phil McGregor

Any kind of anti-virus running that you could turn off?

Thanks for the suggestions. I suspect that this may be unresolvable and may be specific to the hardware/software combination on my NUC (though why it worked for weeks and then suddenly stopped with no obvious cause such as Windows updates etc is a mystery).

I would really have preferred to have this one program work on my NUC but the fact that it works on my older Desktop means I can still enjoy the game ... I originally got the NUC mainly because my old PC (running Windows 10 and not upgradeable) was having problems handling the large DTP/Graphics files I mainly use it for and the NUC had four times the memory and has no such problems ... it was just a bonus that it runs all the Matrix/Steam games I play in my not so copious free time.

Since I have a KVM setup I can switch between the two rigs at, literally, the press of a button, so I can live with it.

Maybe in another 3-4 years when I upgrade again it will work on that machine.

Phil McGregor