Looking for feedback on a "limited world war" scenario idea
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:12 am
Looking for feedback on an idea...
I'm trying to figure out how you could have a conflict between NATO and the Soviet Union that does not turn into a full-scale war. How about this?
1. A border conflict or maritime dispute breaks out between a member of NATO and a member of the Warsaw Pact (Greece and Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia and West Germany, Poland and Norway, etc.).
2. Big Brother Russia sends some forces to back up their ally. Now we've got, say, some Russian planes flying out of Bulgaria and helping against Greek forces on the border.
3. NATO backs up their ally. At this point, it is obvious to everyone (probably by the way troops are being moved, etc.) that no one was planning to invade the other side. No huge masses of soldiers are crossing borders. This is NOT a threat to the Soviet homeland and it doesn't really look like the Soviets are trying to invade the NATO ally (although there may have been a small land grab of a border region going on). At the same time, however, no one is willing to back down.
4. Someone sets up a blockade, no fly zone, etc. around one of the combatants. For example, maybe the Soviets park a couple of ships near Greece and say, "Until you stop shooting at Bulgaria, we're not going to let ships in or out of your ports!"
5. The other side (NATO in this example) runs the blockade and maybe some ships get sunk.
6. This sparks a wider naval war (submarines vs. convoys, etc.) in the region (but not globally) and in-theater fighting gets more serious.
And this is where I have my question...if it was obvious to both sides that neither superpower was trying to invade or obliterate the other, is it plausible this might remain limited to a specific geographic area? Athens and Sofia can get bombed, but not with nukes, and ships near Greek and Bulgarian ports might get sunk, but no one is going to start launching missiles at American or Soviet or British air bases or sending large numbers of troops across the German border or anything crazy like that! Could NATO and the Warsaw Pact agree to rules of engagement where as long as certain lines were not crossed, there would be no escalation. (Would this be what happened in Vietnam?) Or would it just go nuclear?
Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Am I missing anything obvious here about how such a war might be fought?
Thanks in advance.
I'm trying to figure out how you could have a conflict between NATO and the Soviet Union that does not turn into a full-scale war. How about this?
1. A border conflict or maritime dispute breaks out between a member of NATO and a member of the Warsaw Pact (Greece and Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia and West Germany, Poland and Norway, etc.).
2. Big Brother Russia sends some forces to back up their ally. Now we've got, say, some Russian planes flying out of Bulgaria and helping against Greek forces on the border.
3. NATO backs up their ally. At this point, it is obvious to everyone (probably by the way troops are being moved, etc.) that no one was planning to invade the other side. No huge masses of soldiers are crossing borders. This is NOT a threat to the Soviet homeland and it doesn't really look like the Soviets are trying to invade the NATO ally (although there may have been a small land grab of a border region going on). At the same time, however, no one is willing to back down.
4. Someone sets up a blockade, no fly zone, etc. around one of the combatants. For example, maybe the Soviets park a couple of ships near Greece and say, "Until you stop shooting at Bulgaria, we're not going to let ships in or out of your ports!"
5. The other side (NATO in this example) runs the blockade and maybe some ships get sunk.
6. This sparks a wider naval war (submarines vs. convoys, etc.) in the region (but not globally) and in-theater fighting gets more serious.
And this is where I have my question...if it was obvious to both sides that neither superpower was trying to invade or obliterate the other, is it plausible this might remain limited to a specific geographic area? Athens and Sofia can get bombed, but not with nukes, and ships near Greek and Bulgarian ports might get sunk, but no one is going to start launching missiles at American or Soviet or British air bases or sending large numbers of troops across the German border or anything crazy like that! Could NATO and the Warsaw Pact agree to rules of engagement where as long as certain lines were not crossed, there would be no escalation. (Would this be what happened in Vietnam?) Or would it just go nuclear?
Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Am I missing anything obvious here about how such a war might be fought?
Thanks in advance.