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[DB ERROR] Question about the Rampage's Altitude
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:50 am
by DWReese
The Rampage ALBM is listed as having a H-Lo-Hi attack profile.
According to the WRA it is supposed to dash in toward the target and minimum altitude and be released at max distance. It doesn't say what altitude.
The last "Hi" part, to me, seems as though the weapon is supposed to be launched from High Altitude.
In checking with the weapon profile it states that it cruises at 100,000 feet.
If you allow the Flight Planner to take care of the attack, the plane does as it was instructed, but it launches at minimum altitude.
I never see the weapon climb. After it is launched it stays a minimum altitude and rides that all the way in.
The weapon works great, and it is hard to shoot down, but it is listed as an Air Launched Ballistic Missile.
It doesn't seem to be very ballistic.
Is this how it is supposed to work?
Re: Question about the Rampage's Altitude
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 2:15 am
by tylerblakebrandon
DWReese wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:50 am
The Rampage ALBM is listed as having a H-Lo-Hi attack profile.
According to the WRA it is supposed to dash in toward the target and minimum altitude and be released at max distance. It doesn't say what altitude.
The last "Hi" part, to me, seems as though the weapon is supposed to be launched from High Altitude.
In checking with the weapon profile it states that it cruises at 100,000 feet.
If you allow the Flight Planner to take care of the attack, the plane does as it was instructed, but it launches at minimum altitude.
I never see the weapon climb. After it is launched it stays a minimum altitude and rides that all the way in.
The weapon works great, and it is hard to shoot down, but it is listed as an
Air Launched Ballistic Missile.
It doesn't seem to be very ballistic.
Is this how it is supposed to work?
Away from my computer at the moment so i can't check but I'm sure the Hi-Lo-Hi is the F-16s mission profile. Transit at a fuel efficient high altitude and dash in/out on the deck at low level the Transit home again at high altitude.
Now I would expect the RAMPAGE to shoot up into a ballistic arc but if it's driving straight in on the deck that does seem like a issuecwuthrhe weapon.
Re: Question about the Rampage's Altitude
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 2:29 am
by DWReese
I tried it with both the F-15I and the F-16I and it did the same thing. It was fired at very low altitude, and it stayed that way right on into the target.
Additionally, I tried the loadout with ROCKS instead of RAMPAGE, and it worked as expected. It climbed and then dove down on the target as I would have expected it to do.
The RAMPAGE are both listed as an ALBM. Perhaps RAMPAGE really isn't.
I don't know if the RAMPAGE isn't climbing because it really shouldn't climb and it is simply misidentified as an ALBM, or if there is actually an issue with the weapon.
BTW, other sources indicate that the highest flight level altitude for RAMPAGE is 40k feet. CMO has it listed as 100k feet. I don't know which is actually correct.
Re: Question about the Rampage's Altitude
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 3:34 pm
by tylerblakebrandon
I think it's an issue with the missile. From.the sources I see the release envelope for air launch is between 3,000 and 40,000 feet. Not the apogee of the ballistic arc.
Re: Question about the Rampage's Altitude
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:41 am
by Dimitris
There is a DB issue with the missile, it is not marked as a BM so it is not behaving as one. Reported:
https://github.com/PygmalionOfCyprus/cm ... ssues/5854
Re: [DB ERROR] Question about the Rampage's Altitude
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:34 am
by DWReese
FYI.....if you play Operation Broken Shield (for example), using its latest db (which is 504), the RAMPAGE does climb to altitude like a ballistic missile. Sometime after 504 it was changed. Hopefully this info helps.
BTW....ALL of the Syrian DECOY units are actively firing. I'm not sure if that is supposed to be happening.