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Does the Turn 1 South Front Activation work?
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:37 pm
by Granatenwerfer100
11.2.5. Unlocking the Soviet Southern Front
If a Soviet national hex south and east of 187,187 (just
southeast of Lvov) is Axis controlled then all of Southern
Front and related airbases will be unfrozen.
If I understand the t1 front activation rule right, the Russian units in the southern front will move only, if I (Axis-Player) meet the conditions of that rule. I want to avoid the movement of Russian units early in the game, so I attempted to make all things right and did not move any of my troops south of the special marked point on the map.
Please look at the screenshot below. Will the Russian troops unfrozen or not?
Re: Does the Turn 1 South Front Activation work?
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:59 pm
by Sammy5IsAlive
They'll stay frozen. On your screenshot can you see the red triangle saying T1 S Front Activation? That is the top left hand/northwestern corner of the 'box' representing the activation zone.
Re: Does the Turn 1 South Front Activation work?
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:47 pm
by Zovs
Granatenwerfer100 wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:37 pm
11.2.5. Unlocking the Soviet Southern Front
If a Soviet national hex south and east of 187,187 (just
southeast of Lvov) is Axis controlled then all of Southern
Front and related airbases will be unfrozen.
If I understand the t1 front activation rule right, the Russian units in the southern front will move only, if I (Axis-Player) meet the conditions of that rule. I want to avoid the movement of Russian units early in the game, so I attempted to make all things right and did not move any of my troops south of the special marked point on the map.
Please look at the screenshot below. Will the Russian troops unfrozen or not?
Think of it more like this:
If you cross the red line the Soviets will be unfrozen. Your ZOC can extend into the red lines, but if you move into the red lined area your unfreeze the Soviets.
Re: Does the Turn 1 South Front Activation work?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:48 am
by DekeFentle
Hex's you cannot enter/flip. Red circle is just for reference, you can enter/flip that hex.
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So this would be OK. No activation.
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- South front activation 2.jpg (306.88 KiB) Viewed 234 times
Re: Does the Turn 1 South Front Activation work?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:52 am
by Zovs
DekeFentle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:48 am
Hex's you cannot enter/flip. Red circle is just for reverence, you can enter/flip that hex.
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South front activation 1.jpg
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So this would be OK. No activation.
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South front activation 2.jpg
I don't think this is true, at least not with my correspondence with Joel.
Re: Does the Turn 1 South Front Activation work?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:00 pm
by DekeFentle
Soviet ground phase...
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Re: Does the Turn 1 South Front Activation work?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:08 pm
by Wiedrock
Most likely it is a normal "X and Y coordinates"-thing. The triangle is visible in hex [187,187].
So you can take all hexes on the same X-coordinates, so all that are X=187. And all that are Y-coordinated 187.
So as Deke did show above. (+ the Hex with the triangle inside, which you can flip as well).
Living Manual 1., p.208, 209 wrote:11.2.5. Unlocking the Soviet Southern Front
If a Soviet national hex south and east of 187,187 (just southeast of Lvov) is Axis
controlled then all of Southern Front and related airbases will be unfrozen.
[...]
11.3. SOVIET RULES
11.3.1. Ground Movement Restrictions
Soviet units attached to the Southern Front along the Rumanian border are frozen for
the first turn. These units will be unfrozen if the German player exceeds the constraints
in 11.2.5.