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Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 12:13 pm**

I have come late this game and I am loving it. Thanks to all the contributors on this great forum. Without this forum I would be lost. What an amazing war game.
I have been tinkering with the map and came up with these hybrid versions of Chemkids, MakeeLearn and Skacees maps. Basically I took what I liked from each of their maps, layered them up and adjusted colours, contrast etc. Full credit and thanks to the original creators, in no way am I claiming this as my own work.

Maps now come in 4 versions: 2x Stock maps for versions 11.26 and 11.28.4 beta, and 2x Extended maps for 11.26 and 11.28.4 beta. Hexless versions are now available for download too.

All maps include:
All shipyards are named and labelled with an anchor symbol
Red country borders
Urban hexes are graphically depicted.
Oil hexes are graphically depicted
Light/heavy industry are labelled with blue/red squares
OS and OD hexes are distinguishable
Added extra reefs to some impassable hexsides around islands in and around the Coral Sea
Tabulated data added to the bottom left map panel (info came from posts on this forum, full credit to original authors)
A whole host of minor graphical changes to roads, rail and the addition of islands and atolls where appropriate.
Tried to differentiate terrain without losing cohesiveness however the “1” key will remain your friend.
All maps come with the option to play with or without hexes.

The main differences added to 11.28.4 beta versions are:
swamp hexes caused by the flooding of the Yellow River in China
removal of the winter roads in Northern Canada
changes of some roads and rail in Burma
Rail links to Mildura, Canberra
Changes to the rail links on Shikoku Japan
Various islands and atolls added

I have done my best to incorporate all the major changes outlined in Andrew Brown's post here: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1#p4896711 and on the webpages here: https://sites.google.com/view/witp-ae-m ... arios/home (thank you Andrew!)

Here is the link to the map files (each map version has its own folder): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ng6lsr62 ... 837g8&dl=0

If you spot any major errors please post them below and I will do my best to fix them. At times I had 3 versions of the game running and 4 versions of the map files in edit mode opened at the same time. I have probably made mistakes.

I hope you enjoy.

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 5:29 pm**

Very nice! Did you consider doing this to the map changes introduced that added some important changes such as Subic bay, the Indian Ocean offmap movement. etc?

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 11:18 pm**

Thank you Dr.Hal.

Do you mean the extended map? No plans to work on the extended map at this stage. I am learning the game playing the AI in the stock scenario on the standard map. This will keep me busy enough for the time being.

I am planning on incorporating the changes in 1128b to this map once the beta goes live. I have had a quick look and I think the map changes in the beta are doable. It can be time consuming editting these files so I will wait until the final version of the beta is released before making these changes.

Again, I acknowledge and thank the creators of the original maps that I used for this edited version. I stand on the shoulder of giants

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 11:24 pm**

Yes I do mean the extended map. But I certainly appreciate the time/effort it takes, so just keep it in mind as I (and others) only use the extended map and your mod seem effective and needed.....Hal

Posted: **Tue May 06, 2025 2:01 pm**

Thanks for this, have been waiting since the last beta patch, greatly appreciated.

Posted: **Mon May 12, 2025 2:10 am**

dr.hal wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 5:29 pm Very nice! Did you consider doing this to the map changes introduced that added some important changes such as Subic bay, the Indian Ocean offmap movement. etc?

Extended map now available for download.

Maps now come in 4 versions: 2x Stock maps for versions 11.26 and 11.28.4 beta, and 2x Extended maps for 11.26 and 11.28.4 beta

For those who have downloaded a copy of the Stock map prior to the date of this post you may want to redownload the files to ensure you have all the updated changes. I made a few small changes to the stock map, including adding deep ocean hexes in the Gulf of Carpentaria, and added some light industry symbols that were missing from some locations, extra reefs around the Coral Sea, as well as a few other small changes

Posted: **Mon May 12, 2025 3:03 am**

Wow, when did you find the time to do the extended maps???

Posted: **Mon May 12, 2025 3:55 am**

dr.hal wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 3:03 am Wow, when did you find the time to do the extended maps???

Right after the time you asked me to take a look at the extended map

I always intended to update the stock map to include the changes in the beta patch. It wasn't that much more work to include the extended map changes as well.

All the hardwork was done by the original creators of these maps, particularly Chemkid, but also Skacee and MakeeLearn (thank you all for your great graphic mods). I am just making small changes and editing their files to suit my tastes. I am happy to share these changes with the community and I hope these maps are get some use and enjoyment.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2025 1:37 pm**

Superb work! This is my new favorite map.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2025 10:58 pm**

Bo Rearguard wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 1:37 pm Superb work! This is my new favorite map.

Glad you like it. If you spot any errors let me know and I will do my best to fix them.

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2025 4:00 am**

gigglebottom wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 12:13 pm I have come late this game and I am loving it. Thanks to all the contributors on this great forum. Without this forum I would be lost. What an amazing war game.
I have been tinkering with the map and came up with these hybrid versions of Chemkids, MakeeLearn and Skacees maps. Basically I took what I liked from each of their maps, layered them up and adjusted colours, contrast etc. Full credit and thanks to the original creators, in no way am I claiming this as my own work.

Maps now come in 4 versions: 2x Stock maps for versions 11.26 and 11.28.4 beta, and 2x Extended maps for 11.26 and 11.28.4 beta

All maps include:
All shipyards are named and labelled with an anchor symbol
Red country borders
Urban hexes are graphically depicted.
Oil hexes are graphically depicted
Light/heavy industry are labelled with blue/red squares
OS and OD hexes are distinguishable
Added extra reefs to some impassable hexsides around islands in and around the Coral Sea
Tabulated data added to the bottom left map panel (info came from posts on this forum, full credit to original authors)
A whole host of minor graphical changes to roads, rail and the addition of islands and atolls where appropriate.
Tried to differentiate terrain without losing cohesiveness however the “1” key will remain your friend.
Maps come with hexes only (with hindsight I wish I had started this project without the hexes, then added the hex overlay later)

The main differences added to 11.2.4 beta versions are:
swamp hexes caused by the flooding of the Yellow River in China
removal of the winter roads in Northern Canada
changes of some roads and rail in Burma
Rail links to Mildura, Canberra
Changes to the rail links on Shikoku Japan
Various islands and atolls added

I have done my best to incorporate all the major changes outlined in Andrew Brown's post here: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1#p4896711 and on the webpages here: https://sites.google.com/view/witp-ae-m ... arios/home (thank you Andrew!)

Here is the link to the map files (each map version has its own folder): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ng6lsr62 ... 837g8&dl=0

If you spot any major errors please post them below and I will do my best to fix them. At times I had 3 versions of the game running and 4 versions of the map files in edit mode opened at the same time. I have probably made mistakes.

I hope you enjoy.

Holy hell I just poked my head in here not expecting my map dreams to come true as all of these great map makers have left us. You took the best from all and made the mother. Can't thank you enough for this awesome work! But dang yes my only complaint is I play without hexes...

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2025 8:09 am**

Yes. Great work. Thank's so much. If you feel to do a version without hexes would be top

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2025 8:14 pm**

gigglebottom wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 10:58 pm Glad you like it. If you spot any errors let me know and I will do my best to fix them.

My only quibble (and it's a microscopic quibble) would be to add your "oil patch" symbol to some of the smaller Japanese oilfields like Akita and Niigata on Honshu. But I know that they're there so no biggie. Might help any newer Japanese players though. There's also a Soviet oil field at Okha on Sakhalin Island but it's hardly a gusher.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2025 1:20 pm**

Thank you for your map set! I must say that I love the way you display the oilfields. That you tackled the extended map is much appreciated

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2025 12:38 am**

Bo Rearguard wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 8:14 pm
gigglebottom wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 10:58 pm Glad you like it. If you spot any errors let me know and I will do my best to fix them.
My only quibble (and it's a microscopic quibble) would be to add your "oil patch" symbol to some of the smaller Japanese oilfields like Akita and Niigata on Honshu. But I know that they're there so no biggie. Might help any newer Japanese players though. There's also a Soviet oil field at Okha on Sakhalin Island but it's hardly a gusher.

Oil stains now added to Okha and Petropavlosk on all maps.
Akita and Niigata have oil stains, however they may be hard to see amongst the clutter. Some of the oil stains may be hard to spot around urban areas and parts of the map with a lot of visual activity (like in Japan)

I have also made a few additional changes to all the maps (files updated in my drop box):

- Added additional reefs throughout the map to better show impassable ocean hexsides (a lot of reefs have been added)
- Added an anchor symbol to the Portland shipyard (this was missing)

- Fixed the colour gradient around the ocean hexes on the Subic Bay peninsular to blend my edits a bit better (fixed on the 2 extended maps)

To those asking about a hexless version, I am sorry but it is highly unlikely. I began this project editing the hex versions of the maps (I only play with hexes), and it is too onerous to now remove the hex grid in retrospect. I wonder however if an AI image editing program can do it?

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2025 1:27 pm**

This looks great! Thanks

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2025 9:23 pm**

Just started using this to switch up from my usual, very big fan. May I ask what UI mods you're using for the TF icons and the actual UI bar?

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2025 10:29 pm**

Icechuck wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 9:23 pm Just started using this to switch up from my usual, very big fan. May I ask what UI mods you're using for the TF icons and the actual UI bar?

The UI graphic mods are by Skacee. His website is here: https://witpae-mod-page.webnode.cz/

Skacee has some great mods and some nice maps. His maps have the symbols for the oil fields, light/heavy industry, shipyards and the urban hexes which I have used in this map mod. His rich info maps were helpful to me when learning the game. Thank you Skacee, your mods are fantastic.

The large TF icons are by Platoonist and are available for download from this forum: https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... t#p5038582.

These icons were a game changer for me. Thank you Platoonist.

Incidentally I may have figured out how to remove the hex overlay and I am working on hexless versions of these maps. More info to follow in good time.

Posted: **Thu May 22, 2025 2:06 am**

gigglebottom wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 10:29 pm
Icechuck wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 9:23 pm Just started using this to switch up from my usual, very big fan. May I ask what UI mods you're using for the TF icons and the actual UI bar?
Incidentally I may have figured out how to remove the hex overlay and I am working on hexless versions of these maps. More info to follow in good time.

This is great to hear thank you for your work!

Posted: **Thu May 22, 2025 9:14 am**

@gigglebottom - great job! hope you had a fab time editing the map - soooo many details to take care of, right? thanks a lot!

[...] To those asking about a hexless version, I am sorry but it is highly unlikely.
I began this project editing the hex versions of the maps (I only play with hexes),
and it is too onerous to now remove the hex grid in retrospect. [...]

fyi, if you're bored and have some more time to spend on doing map work,
here's a link to some tools used for witpae mapmods, eg. the "witp-ae-GRID+DOT_pattern.zip" :

https://www.mediafire.com/file/qeea81h1 ... 1.zip/file

the rest is is linked from armchair dragoons forum here:

https://armchairdragoons.com/forum/inde ... 4#msg51624

enjoy!

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