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Djibouti
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:45 am
by Taifun
What happens to Djibouti when captured by the Italians after the fall of France and the creation of Vichy?
Does Djibouti revert to Vichy or stays under Italian control? Thanks
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:05 am
by BillRunacre
It will accept the terms of the armistice which means it will become Vichy territory.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:00 am
by Fafnir
If I remember correctly it will stay Axis if there is an unit in it. But I am not sure about it.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:03 pm
by Umeu
It works that way for the allies. So yes, should be same for axis too. But not sure since axis rarely capture Djibouti.
Sounds like a wild game already
Ps: a unit has to stay in Djibouti at all times though. If it is left empty, it will still turn to Vichy even years after fall of France. So you might want to consider if it is worth the garrison. Takes about a year for Djibouti to pay for 50mpp.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:28 pm
by Taifun
Thanks for all the answers, nice to have Fafnir around

Re: Djibouti
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:58 am
by BillRunacre
Just to clarify: only the presence of an Allied (non-French) unit will prevent it from becoming Vichy territory.
The Axis offered the French an armistice, so they have to (at least for one turn) abide by its terms, which means that if they have a unit present it will be moved out, and the territory becomes Vichy.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:00 pm
by Fafnir
I have tested it now in Hotseat mode. Djibuti or French Somalialand are not part of the Vichy event.
If it is not conquered the garrison is not affected, so it stays allied French Somalia.
If there is an allied or axis untit in it, none of them will be displaced during the Vichy event.
I even put a French unit in it and this switched to free French (I think there is only a 20% chance for this).
Also a few turns later nothing will change regardless if there is any unit present or not.
I rememberd that French Somalialand was part of the Vichy event, but now it is definitely not in the 1939 campain.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:54 am
by Taifun
I can now confirm that Djibouti remains under Axis control once Vichy is formed. Even if there are no units in the capital afterwards, Djibouti does not revert to the Allied side.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:47 am
by BillRunacre
I see the issue.
If French Somaliland has surrendered then the relevant Surrender script will not work, so it will remain under Axis control.
Unfortunately there isn't a solution that is both easy and good. The only option would be to remove French Somaliland from the map and have the territory transferred to another Vichy entity.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 3:59 pm
by Umeu
I think it's fine as it is now. If the Axis actually make the effort and succeed in taking land in East Africa, they deserve all the bonuses. Most games, they won't succeed or even try at all. If they are going to lose Djibouti after going through the effort to take it, then no one will ever even try.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 11:07 pm
by Taifun
I agree with Umeu. I wouldn't make any changes.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:27 am
by Cpuncher
Taifun wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:54 am
I can now confirm that Djibouti remains under Axis control once Vichy is formed. Even if there are no units in the capital afterwards, Djibouti does not revert to the Allied side.
But after Allies retake it, and left it unguarded, Djibouti reverted to Neutral Vichy.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 6:14 pm
by BillRunacre
Cpuncher wrote: Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:27 am
Taifun wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:54 am
I can now confirm that Djibouti remains under Axis control once Vichy is formed. Even if there are no units in the capital afterwards, Djibouti does not revert to the Allied side.
But after Allies retake it, and left it unguarded, Djibouti reverted to Neutral Vichy.
True, but that cannot be prevented unfortunately.
Re: Djibouti
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:31 pm
by Elessar2
This town always reminds me of this album:

Re: Djibouti
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 9:55 pm
by wevilc
Djibouti, it is worth remembering, is part of the unhelpful alphabet (D is for Djibouti). I wonder whether its inhabitants know this?