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SSG working on a Barbarrossa Game?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:03 pm
by ladner
Over in the Korsun Pocket Forum, it was mentioned that SSG was working on a Barbarrossa game after the next Decisive Battles of WW2 title, which is to be Normandy. Has anyone found out any additional details even if just rumors or wild speculation. Also, I wonder if it is the full east front 1941-45, or just 1941.

Lastly, for any of those who remember the 5 1/4 floppy era, does anyone remember the name of the East Front game put out by SSG? In the game you commanded Army Groups North, Center and South for the Germans and Theaters A, B and C for the Soviets? OKH and Stavka I think were computer controlled and would sometimes do interesting things like transfer a panzer army or a tank army to a different front. Real fun when you would have your friends controlling the other theaters of the same side and suddenly the high command recoginized your obviously superior leadership.

It was a great game, I spent many an hour of my adolesence with my friends playing that game on the C-64. One real interesting aspect was that you could only give orders (main effort, normal, and rest) to the army/front and assign an objective, you could also give orders to the corps/armies (assualt, probe, defend, and retreat) but the actual movement would be controlled by the AI. This was probably one of my all-time favorite war games.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:45 am
by Challerain
After browsing through the underdogs site, the only East Front game that I see is Panzer Battles. Could that be it?

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:07 am
by Brigz
gfish22 wrote:Lastly, for any of those who remember the 5 1/4 floppy era, does anyone remember the name of the East Front game put out by SSG? In the game you commanded Army Groups North, Center and South for the Germans and Theaters A, B and C for the Soviets? OKH and Stavka I think were computer controlled and would sometimes do interesting things like transfer a panzer army or a tank army to a different front. Real fun when you would have your friends controlling the other theaters of the same side and suddenly the high command recoginized your obviously superior leadership.

It was a great game, I spent many an hour of my adolesence with my friends playing that game on the C-64. One real interesting aspect was that you could only give orders (main effort, normal, and rest) to the army/front and assign an objective, you could also give orders to the corps/armies (assualt, probe, defend, and retreat) but the actual movement would be controlled by the AI. This was probably one of my all-time favorite war games.
Had to dig out my old Run 5 magazines that SSG used to publish. The game was "RUSSIA The Great War in the East 1941-1945" and the interesting thing is the price: "Just $40". That was back in 1987. Computer game prices have certainly not changed much in 16 years.

By the war, I have the Run 5 issues from 1 to 22 if anyone needs reference on some of their old games or articles.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:13 am
by Fred98
Dave Briggs wrote:Had to dig out my old Run 5 magazines that SSG used to publish. The game was "RUSSIA The Great War in the East 1941-1945" and the interesting thing is the price: "Just $40". That was back in 1987. Computer game prices have certainly not changed much in 16 years.

By the war, I have the Run 5 issues from 1 to 22 if anyone needs reference on some of their old games or articles.
The story is that that they are doing Normandy next. The artist has almost completed the map.

The artist is also working on Stalingrad map.

After Stalingrad, SSG would love to do a whole of the eastern Front game using the KP game engine - with amendments to allow for the huge difference in scale.

Realistically, such a game has lower priority and is some years away

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:39 am
by ladner
Thanks for all of the responses. Panzer Battles was actaully a differnet game but good in its own right, two different scales I think the Panzer Battles scale was similar in scope to Korsun Pocket and TAO2. I can't fully remember but I think Dave is correct. I am just grateful that SSG has resumed developing games, Korsun is a blast and by far the best game I have purchased this year.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:36 pm
by Kent Pfeiffer
Joe 98 wrote:The artist is also working on Stalingrad map.
Is the Stalingrad game is going to cover Operation Uranus or Case Blue? Both? Neither?

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:48 am
by Fred98
SSG is undecided.

But in my view, it needs to include the initail German advance to Stalingrad against little opposition and then the Soviet attacks on tbe flanks and the full encirclement.