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Countries upset at spying aren't being spied upon

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 1:19 am
by thedoctorking
I have been getting the "countries upset at our spying, tensions increase" event quite frequently even though all my intelligence settings are at medium or below. And the countries affected don't seem to have any relationship to the amount of spying I'm actually doing in that country. Is this WAD? I've included a recent save where the event fired last turn.

Re: Countries upset at spying aren't being spied upon

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:16 am
by WLRoo
AFAIK, this is intended to trigger for any level above None.

My guess is its an RNG event weighted to the spend, so if you get unlucky even low spending can generate 2-3 increases in a row.

Re: Countries upset at spying aren't being spied upon

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:47 pm
by thedoctorking
The countries that were hit were not being spied upon at all. I reserve my intelligence expenditures for enemies or people with superior tech.

Re: Countries upset at spying aren't being spied upon

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:26 pm
by MaximKI
thedoctorking wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:47 pm The countries that were hit were not being spied upon at all. I reserve my intelligence expenditures for enemies or people with superior tech.
Just to confirm - you had the event trigger on a country where you have espionage set at 'None', is that correct?

Re: Countries upset at spying aren't being spied upon

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:37 pm
by thedoctorking
That is correct. Several countries had their tensions increase, including both those I was spying on and those where the intelligence level was set to "none".

Re: Countries upset at spying aren't being spied upon

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 2:52 am
by mrchuck
You have been framed maybe?

Other games have this. Not sure if RTW does.

Re: Countries upset at spying aren't being spied upon

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:46 am
by Vermin
Also had this occur with Russia getting upset with None ffor tge espionage setting. I had high with another country and also seen it happen with low across the board so seems to trigger at a low average threshold.

Re: Countries upset at spying aren't being spied upon

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2026 5:50 am
by Vermin
Bump, since there seem to be no answers to the problem can a mod please move this to the bugs section and we can hopefully get some traction.

Re: Countries upset at spying aren't being spied upon

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2026 4:43 pm
by bobrose
As far as I understand how intelligence work in RTW3 game, effort to spy on AI builds up gradually over time to reach level that was set by player in setting, and when level is not reached yet it displays it with *.

But, if previously there was a level of intelligence, it also takes time to gradually downgrade from High back to None. So when intelligence effort is set to 'None', but previously there was existing spy network, for some amount of turns until downgrade is complete you will continue to get spy events and receive advantages of intelligence.

It can be tested in game — set intelligence to 'High' and then wait several turns for * to disappear, thus spy network reached High level. After that, If you set level intelligence in settings back to 'None', and wait one or two turns, it wouldn't immediately downgrade fully, and when you try to raise level from 'None' to either 'Medium' or 'Low' level of intelligence would appear without * because some of spy network is still there, but 'High' is likely to be displayed with * as it still downgraded.