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B1676 Friendly fire on NOCOMM units
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:37 am
by Quixotic1917
I had noticed this behavior a few times on enemy units and managed to catch it perfectly on a save here. The NASAMS at Zamboanga/Edwin Andrews will try to engage the friendly P-3 shortly after unpause, I imagine the RBS 70s will join in shortly after.
My internals, if helpful:
CPU-AMD Ryzen 5 3550H @2.1GHz 4 cores 6MB
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Thank you devs :)
Re: B1676 Friendly fire on NOCOMM units
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 7:29 am
by Nikel
Edit: also happens in B1706, once in several tries, like in B1676.
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[CJTF 667] No. 5 Sqn RNZAF #1 (P-3K2 Orion) suffered penetration on pressurized cabin - Disintegrating in mid-air!
22-Jul-23 22:45:18 - [Olvana] New contact! Designated MISSILE #1042 - Detected by 3/3 Gds UAV Bn #1 (WZ-7 Soaring Dragon UAV) [Sensors: Generic SIGINT] at 145deg - Estimated 304nm
22-Jul-23 22:45:18 - [Olvana] New contact! Designated MISSILE #1043 - Detected by 3/3 Gds UAV Bn #1 (WZ-7 Soaring Dragon UAV) [Sensors: Generic SIGINT] at 145deg - Estimated 303nm
22-Jul-23 22:45:18 - [CJTF 667] No. 5 Sqn RNZAF #1 (P-3K2 Orion) has been destroyed!
22-Jul-23 22:45:18 - MIM-120C-7 NASAMS II [AMRAAM] #1759 HIT: Weapon: MIM-120C-7 NASAMS II [AMRAAM] #1759 is attacking No. 5 Sqn RNZAF #1 (P-3K2 Orion) with a base PH of 95%. PH adjusted for weapon speed: 89% (pure-aerodynamic attitude control). Final PH: 89% Result: 86 - HIT.
22-Jul-23 22:45:18 - [CJTF 667] Contact No. 5 Sqn RNZAF #1 has been lost.
22-Jul-23 22:45:18 - [CJTF 667] Contact No. 5 Sqn RNZAF #1 detected by CJTF 667 droppped - for my unit
There is also something strange in that unit, sometimes it does not appear in the scenario.
Re: B1676 Friendly fire on NOCOMM units
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:32 am
by blu3s
I'm unable to repro this in 1711, tried several times even manually launching, the missiles seems unable to lock on the target...
In fact I'd expect a blue on blue if you're unable to ID the contact so the post should be WAD but the results I'm getting are not IMO (might be WAD, I need to check)
Re: B1676 Friendly fire on NOCOMM units
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:46 am
by blu3s
Tried in another scenario, and yes if you don't ID the unit, and your ROE let you fire to non-ID contacts, or even you class the contact as hostile (due to Exclusion Zone) you might have a blue on blue, so be careful with your ROEs
Re: [WAD] B1676 Friendly fire on NOCOMM units
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 7:36 pm
by Quixotic1917
I apologize if I'm missing something, but the P-3 is ID'd as friendly ('A' beneath contact) and the NASAMS Air ROE is set to tight. They will engage even if manually ID'd as friendly with 'F" keypush.
Re: B1676 Friendly fire on NOCOMM units
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 8:30 am
by Dimitris
Re-opening.