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What it says in the title.

Thanks. Are you seeing this with all RGT units, regardless of scenario?

I have seen this on a few occasions now. This attachments are from a brand new scenario started today. I had the same issue on the Tutorial as well.

Confirming on my end, too. I've seen it in every scenario I've played so far.

Heclapar wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:12 pm What it says in the title.

demiller wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 12:31 am Confirming on my end, too. I've seen it in every scenario I've played so far.

You guys haven't posted enough info for me to see your LCU sidebar settings. But Shieldofzone does:

Shieldofzone wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 2:49 am I have seen this on a few occasions now. This attachments are from a brand new scenario started today. I had the same issue on the Tutorial as well.

If you look at his first screenshot it has the LCU list with the filter set:

Components = Exclude

And underneath the name of the Frecce Nere Brigata it shows it is part of a "Cbt Group ..."

Since most tactical units, including the Militia Columns and later Regiments are Combat Groups, composed of multiple components, then this keeps the LCU list "tidy" in that it only shows you the RGT [Commander and his support/HQ platoon] component of the Column. Change it to Include and you will see all of the Companies, Logistics, Engineers, Artillery (if any) etc that make up the Column/Regiment and are in the same hex, with their troop numbers, AV etc.

The traditional interface and the tooltip on the icon on the bottom hex bar both should show the combined statistics for the Combat Group.

I'm not saying this is the most intuitive design, but I am sure there is no bug here, as the RGT unit listed probably does have only 70 troops. Changing the settings INCLUDE/EXCLUDE allows you to see everything you want in the new list view, if you want this depth. Or keep the list short and click on the Details button as you seem to have done, which shows the combined strength of the Combat Group, not just the HQ component (assuming they have been rebuilt into a combined unit, if not then). The Devices button on the list also shows all of the Devices clearly marked as to which component they belong to.

Note, none of this matters with the setting if the components have not been combined using Try Rebuild, or the components are not in the same hex. They will be listed then even using Exclude as they are still treated as independently operating, and you can move them separately and give them different ops Mode. When you first rebuild the unit, the sidebar list doesn't immediately update, click off the hex and back on to see the Companies disappear with Exclude leaving just the RGT component.

Another thing to note, if you click on the "Full List" button then you will get the type of display that WITP:AE uses.

potski wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 1:44 am
Components = Exclude

And underneath the name of the Frecce Nere Brigata it shows it is part of a "Cbt Group ..."

Since most tactical units, including the Militia Columns and later Regiments are Combat Groups, composed of multiple components, then this keeps the LCU list "tidy" in that it only shows you the RGT [Commander and his support/HQ platoon] component of the Column. Change it to Include and you will see all of the Companies, Logistics, Engineers, Artillery (if any) etc that make up the Column/Regiment and are in the same hex, with their troop numbers, AV etc.

The traditional interface and the tooltip on the icon on the bottom hex bar both should show the combined statistics for the Combat Group.

I'm not saying this is the most intuitive design, but I am sure there is no bug here, as the RGT unit listed probably does have only 70 troops. Changing the settings INCLUDE/EXCLUDE allows you to see everything you want in the new list view, if you want this depth. Or keep the list short and click on the Details button as you seem to have done, which shows the combined strength of the Combat Group, not just the HQ component (assuming they have been rebuilt into a combined unit, if not then). The Devices button on the list also shows all of the Devices clearly marked as to which component they belong to.

Yes, I've done that, and the LCU list will indeed show all the units in a regiment, with their AV. This may not be a bug, but it isn't terrible useful. Seeing the combined AV in the LCU list is what I'm looking for. As has been pointed out there are ways to see this and have a view that is reflective of WitP:AE. Which I'm mostly using rather than the LCU list. The LCU list could be a great QOL feature but I find it almost in the way because of things like this combined with the fact that the LCU list just disappears at times.

RangerJoe wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 5:40 am Another thing to note, if you click on the "Full List" button then you will get the type of display that WITP:AE uses.

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the response. I tried what you suggested but the AV still isn't showing. It's still a brand new scenario.

Shieldofzone wrote: Fri Feb 06, 2026 2:14 pm

RangerJoe wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 5:40 am Another thing to note, if you click on the "Full List" button then you will get the type of display that WITP:AE uses.

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the response. I tried what you suggested but the AV still isn't showing. It's still a brand new scenario.

I am referring to the top right corner, above the filter where All is in blue. That is the "Full List" to click on to show the display that WITP:AE uses.

RangerJoe wrote: Fri Feb 06, 2026 2:47 pm

Shieldofzone wrote: Fri Feb 06, 2026 2:14 pm

RangerJoe wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 5:40 am Another thing to note, if you click on the "Full List" button then you will get the type of display that WITP:AE uses.

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the response. I tried what you suggested but the AV still isn't showing. It's still a brand new scenario.

I am referring to the top right corner, above the filter where All is in blue. That is the "Full List" to click on to show the display that WITP:AE uses.

Apologies, I wasn't clear enougth. I meant that I added "included" in the LCU, which showed the additional units but not their AV. Also, apologies if I am being dense here. Thanks for the support!