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this happened at shortlands.....



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/07/42

Weather: Clear

Sub attack at 21,30

Japanese Ships
AG 118, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-40


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shortland Island at 29,34

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 14
BB Yamato, Shell hits 3
CA Tone, Shell hits 13, on fire
CA Kako, Shell hits 39, on fire, heavy damage
CL Yura, Shell hits 14, on fire
CL Tama, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yugumo, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Akigumo, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kazegumo, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Makigumo, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Minegumo, Shell hits 1
DD Arare

Allied Ships
CA Chicago, Shell hits 6
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Australia, Shell hits 4
CL Achillies, Shell hits 4
CL Hobart, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Walke, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Morris, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Helm, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Patterson, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Farragut, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Dewey, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Monaghan, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Aylwin, Shell hits 1
DMS Southard, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on TF, near Meteiai at 17,24


Allied aircraft
Hudson x 7


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson x 1 destroyed
Hudson x 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Asakasan Maru
AP Daifuku Maru

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x Hudson at 6000 feet
2 x Hudson at 6000 feet

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ok heres the deal I am the Ijn my task forces were on retire...they did as you can see the kako was HEAVILY damaged it an three ships made one hex...np I resinded the "retirement allowed" an react to enemy forces... an sent it back to shortlands next turn it did not repeat goto shortlands...I was EXTREMLY ****** AT THIS POINT AN CHANGED IT'S HOME PORT TO SHORTLANDS....WALAHHH! THEY WENT TO SHORTLANDS AND STAYED...MINUS THE KAKO WHICH SUNK IN SIGHT OF THE HARBOR!!!!!!! .This kinda of "GARAGE PROGRAMMINIG"...really pisses me off.Question?...can we expect more of this kinda nonesense in witp? This is'nt a rant,ok.If a ship is endangering of sinking put it in anchorage,does'nt sound to hard to figure it out

Matt Erickson wrote:ok heres the deal I am the Ijn my task forces were on retire...they did as you can see the kako was HEAVILY damaged it an three ships made one hex...np I resinded the "retirement allowed" an react to enemy forces... an sent it back to shortlands next turn it did not repeat goto shortlands...I was EXTREMLY ****** AT THIS POINT AN CHANGED IT'S HOME PORT TO SHORTLANDS....WALAHHH! THEY WENT TO SHORTLANDS AND STAYED...MINUS THE KAKO WHICH SUNK IN SIGHT OF THE HARBOR!!!!!!! .This kinda of "GARAGE PROGRAMMINIG"...really pisses me off.Question?...can we expect more of this kinda nonesense in witp? This is'nt a rant,ok.If a ship is endangering of sinking put it in anchorage,does'nt sound to hard to figure it out

Sadly (or whatever), the way the system works, badly damaged ships always retire - independent of the no retire setting - to their home port.
Its not a problem for a human player, but sucks for the AI - whose homeports are almost always Rabaul/Turk/Noumea/Brisbane. It should be changed in Witp. As for now - YOU could have saved your little CA by simply making sure Shortlands was set as her homeport. Turn out you didn't - sounds like a command mistake from Fleet HQ. :p Its war - sh!t happens - live and learn and move on.

yeah sadly the importance of the "make home base command" was sorely missed on me you would figure it would at least ellict a highlite in the game manual

oh yeah ...post script another ship an IJN destroyer was also lost to this funny little rule.

Matt,

This is a very irritating traite in UV. It would be nice if it defaulted to the nearest friendly 3+ port although this would have it's own problems too.

The manual is not great on such things and I think many of us got caught out by this and some of the react to enemy or Patrol / do not retire commands early on - or when we forget

As Veer says though you could have got the ship back if you had put in the right commands. If it makes you feel better IJN damage control is so bad that if Kako was really badly damaged she may have sunk anyway :p

Well she was at 85 in the port battle (shortlands) she move one hex away by the time turn expired no biggy really I said mover her an an wounded comrades back (one hex) give orders no retire no react she goes in then goes back (one hex outta short) now shes 93 float I make short her home base the rest minus kako an kazegumo arrive whatta waste coulda won that battle now I'm lost well I did sink a wounded destroyer final tally 2 us ca's 3 us destroyer's 2 jap dest 1 ca and alot of severly wounded ca's an dest's(I was surprised in night combat)...the mutus did horrible in combat...I wanna bitch slap his captain dude like hit like once the whole battle.