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ADDED: Submarines can perform cargo operations, just like surface ships and land transports
Yes, 517 or later.
The **1982 South Georgia mission of** ARA Santa Fe (S-21) is one of the best-documented post-1945 examples of a submarine performing a traditional cargo and personnel transport mission.
### Context
During the opening phase of the Falklands War, Argentina sought to reinforce its small garrison on the island of South Georgia, located east of the Falkland Islands.
### Cargo Mission Timeline
| Date | Event |
| ---------------- | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Early April 1982 | Argentine forces occupied South Georgia. |
| Mid-April 1982 | Argentina decided to reinforce the garrison before British forces arrived. |
| 24 April 1982 | ARA Santa Fe (S-21) arrived at South Georgia carrying reinforcements and supplies. |
| 25 April 1982 | After unloading personnel and cargo, the submarine was detected and attacked by British helicopters. |
| 25 April 1982 | The damaged submarine reached the harbor at Grytviken but was no longer operational. |
| 26 April 1982 | Argentine forces on South Georgia surrendered. |
### What Cargo Was Carried?
Sources generally agree that Santa Fe transported:
* Argentine Marine reinforcements
* Weapons and ammunition
* Military supplies for the garrison
* Food and other sustainment stores
The most frequently cited figure is approximately **30–40 additional troops**, primarily Marines and support personnel, along with their equipment.
### Why a Submarine Was Used
Argentina used a submarine because:
* Surface transport near South Georgia risked interception by British naval forces.
* A submarine offered a greater chance of reaching the island undetected.
* The mission was urgent and intended to strengthen the isolated garrison before British counterattacks.
### British Attack
After unloading cargo, Santa Fe was attacked by aircraft from the British task force, including helicopters from:
* HMS Antrim (D18)
* HMS Plymouth (F126)
* HMS Brilliant (F90)
The submarine suffered significant damage from missiles, depth charges, and gunfire but managed to reach Grytviken.
### Significance
For naval historians and wargame designers, this mission is noteworthy because it represents:
* A genuine submarine logistics operation after 1945.
* Transport of troops and supplies rather than strategic missiles.
* A combat-zone resupply mission.
* One of the last real-world examples of a conventionally powered submarine being used as a military transport vessel.
### Cargo Characteristics (for scenario design)
| Cargo Type | Approximate Contents |
| ------------------ | -------------------------------------------- |
| Personnel | ~30–40 Marines and support troops |
| Weapons | Individual weapons, machine guns, ammunition |
| Sustainment | Food, rations, basic supplies |
| Military Equipment | Communications and field equipment |
Nikel wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2026 1:32 pm Tried several subs (Jimmy Carter, Orca, Potomac), in none the edit cargo button is available, in the docking operations the unload/load cargo is greyed out and they are not considered capable of carrying cargo in delivery/transfer missions.
Yes, it's very limited. Basically what I needed to implement cargo ops into Pole Positions.JFS737 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2026 4:29 pm Same here. Maybe it's not implemented in Jimmy C or Orca.... I've tried others as well with no luck. Is it limited to a very few?
You can do this, but I found it to be a little tricky (unless I'm missing something)...BDukes wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 8:35 pm If it doesn't have it already try selecting the unit and opening the boating operations window. Looks like you can add them in the same way you can add aircraft facilities.
I suspect it will partly depend on people looking up what actual submarines were known to be able to carry and sending in requests to Pygmallion.
